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superchunk said:

This is why the Islamic world needs its Renaissance from the Dark Ages its been in for the last 100 years. It needs this continued uprising that started in Tunisia and has engulfed Egypt. It needs to continue to overthrow the powers that were placed in control by European/US leaders after the world wars. Once this dictatorial yolk has been removed, the populace can then begin the journey of recovering their Islam from extremists and return it to what it used to be.

To all those that think this is Islam and argue with me about the Qur'ans Mekkah vs Medina versus STFU. You don't know what your talking about or the history of the region. Extremism and intolerance has only been the controlling factor of the Islamic world for a little over 100 years. For centuries before that women held power and ownership of businesses along with equal rights at home and away as well as full education. Other religions were treated equally and allowed to practice openly as well as being held accountable to their own sets of laws and tried by their own judges/priests/etc.

I pray that US and other western powers push strongly for Egypt to be overthrown and continue this path to a free and open Middle East. Taliban needs to be wiped out. They are the worst of the worst.

Pretty much this.



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What is more sickening is that this kind of actions happens more frequent, it is a bit like all the honor killings etc in Europe;.



 

alekth said:

Why, in England there's been crushing, burning, boiling (alive). And it was entertainment for the masses.

That having been said, I do think sharia law is very cruel and with it being bundled with religion it seems like a sort of Spanish inquisition that's going for way too long. That couple shouldn't have returned on promises, goes without saying.


Yeah, but we dont live in the fithteen century anymore, you know..



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Mistershine said:
Chairman-Mao said:

Look I know their society seems backwards to us with laws like this, but even so; the law is the law. She knew adultery was wrong in her society and she chose to do it anyways and paid for it. 

Maybe there's a society out there where stealing isn't wrong and they think we're retarded for punishing thieves?


This. Just because we think it's wrong it doesn't make it so.

THIS is wrong. VERY much so.



Mistershine said:
Chairman-Mao said:

Look I know their society seems backwards to us with laws like this, but even so; the law is the law. She knew adultery was wrong in her society and she chose to do it anyways and paid for it. 

Maybe there's a society out there where stealing isn't wrong and they think we're retarded for punishing thieves?


This. Just because we think it's wrong it doesn't make it so.

Do you support holocaust too? After all that's how law was in Germany.



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Chairman-Mao said:

Look I know their society seems backwards to us with laws like this, but even so; the law is the law. She knew adultery was wrong in her society and she chose to do it anyways and paid for it. 

Maybe there's a society out there where stealing isn't wrong and they think we're retarded for punishing thieves?


Except it's not the law, and that was clear in the article. It was an illegal stoning carried out by a terrorist group, not as a product of the justice system. The people who carried out the stoning are now wanted men.

That's not to say stoning isn't part of the justice system in other countries, because it is, and that's something that I and much of the world find disturbing.

And I do respect your approach to moral relativism, but you're still allowed to be outraged from a personal point of view, even though there is no set code of morals that all societies can live by. And pushing to get unreasonable laws with inhumane punishments revoked has been something mankind has always benefited from.



Zlejedi said:
Mistershine said:
Chairman-Mao said:

Look I know their society seems backwards to us with laws like this, but even so; the law is the law. She knew adultery was wrong in her society and she chose to do it anyways and paid for it. 

Maybe there's a society out there where stealing isn't wrong and they think we're retarded for punishing thieves?


This. Just because we think it's wrong it doesn't make it so.

Do you support holocaust too? After all that's how law was in Germany.

Holocaust? Bet he's never heard of it.



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Chairman-Mao said:

Look I know their society seems backwards to us with laws like this, but even so; the law is the law. She knew adultery was wrong in her society and she chose to do it anyways and paid for it. 

Maybe there's a society out there where stealing isn't wrong and they think we're retarded for punishing thieves?

People should oppose unjust laws. It's the duty of any decent human being to do so.

Cultural relativism can only go so far.



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Mistershine said:
Chairman-Mao said:

Look I know their society seems backwards to us with laws like this, but even so; the law is the law. She knew adultery was wrong in her society and she chose to do it anyways and paid for it. 

Maybe there's a society out there where stealing isn't wrong and they think we're retarded for punishing thieves?


This. Just because we think it's wrong it doesn't make it so.

Human rights transcend cultural relativism.



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Chairman-Mao said:

Look I know their society seems backwards to us with laws like this, but even so; the law is the law. She knew adultery was wrong in her society and she chose to do it anyways and paid for it. 

Maybe there's a society out there where stealing isn't wrong and they think we're retarded for punishing thieves?

It doesn't seem backwards, its completely fucked up.

You live in a civilized country where even murder doesn't get you a punishment that bad. Perhaps you can't empathize for people born into god awful societies like that.

Your analogy about punishing thieves is stupid. Things don't have to be that black and white.



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