You know what's sad...
honest to got my first thought?
"Well at least they're stoning the man too... that's progress."
At least their messed up laws are becoming more gender nuetral?
You know what's sad...
honest to got my first thought?
"Well at least they're stoning the man too... that's progress."
At least their messed up laws are becoming more gender nuetral?
sapphi_snake said:
Human rights transcend cultural relativism. |
Says the person who wants to murder people who did their time in jail?
NKAJ said:
Cultural relativity is used far too often as an excuse to let bad things happen, however on the other hand we can't pretend to be so high and mighty ourselves,it's a balance between the two. At the end of the day,the woman should not have been stoned to death for that, being put in prison would have been more appropriate. |
Its not our place to govern other countries. If we start calling them wrong then there will be no such thing as sovereignty.
Wagram said:
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Thanks :)
kowenicki said:
get a grip stoning someone to near death and then blasting them with a rifle at short range is in no way acceptable. and no there isnt a society out there that thinks stealing is ok and we are retarded for punishing thieves...but even if there was.... do we torture thieves to a slow and painful death in a cold and barbaric way with huge grins on our faces...? pathetic response. |
I also think its wrong to stone anyone for anything, especially something as seemingly harmless as adultery...but its not our place to govern other cultures or judge them for what they do.
highwaystar101 said:
That's not to say stoning isn't part of the justice system in other countries, because it is, and that's something that I and much of the world find disturbing. And I do respect your approach to moral relativism, but you're still allowed to be outraged from a personal point of view, even though there is no set code of morals that all societies can live by. And pushing to get unreasonable laws with inhumane punishments revoked has been something mankind has always benefited from. |
I didn't realize that (the part I underlined). In that case I will take back what I said.
I do however stand by a nation's right to sovereignty as long as its "legal" (passed by their legitimate government).
superchunk said: This is why the Islamic world needs its Renaissance from the Dark Ages its been in for the last 100 years. It needs this continued uprising that started in Tunisia and has engulfed Egypt. It needs to continue to overthrow the powers that were placed in control by European/US leaders after the world wars. Once this dictatorial yolk has been removed, the populace can then begin the journey of recovering their Islam from extremists and return it to what it used to be. To all those that think this is Islam and argue with me about the Qur'ans Mekkah vs Medina versus STFU. You don't know what your talking about or the history of the region. Extremism and intolerance has only been the controlling factor of the Islamic world for a little over 100 years. For centuries before that women held power and ownership of businesses along with equal rights at home and away as well as full education. Other religions were treated equally and allowed to practice openly as well as being held accountable to their own sets of laws and tried by their own judges/priests/etc. I pray that US and other western powers push strongly for Egypt to be overthrown and continue this path to a free and open Middle East. Taliban needs to be wiped out. They are the worst of the worst. |
Best comment here. I totally agree. Islam isn't a bad religion (I've been reading about it), only the extremists are bad.
Chairman-Mao said:
I do however stand by a nation's right to sovereignty as long as its "legal" (passed by their legitimate government). |
Its illegal in several countries to convert to any religion other then Islam. If you do so it is punishable by death. Should we respect those countries soveirgnty and allow them to commit acts of genocide against those who convert. In other countries like Eritria its illegal to be anything other then Islam not only convert.
Should we stand by and watch these countries butcher their people because we respect their soveirgnty? Its the same as standing by while Hitler executed the Jews. Now I know our Governments currently are standing by and allowing several countries to butcher their people, but the question remains "Should they"?
I hope that Nato and the Afghan National Army arrest or kill every one of those responsable for this hanous act. May justice be served hot!
-JC7
"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer
Kasz216 said:
Says the person who wants to murder people who did their time in jail? |
Hey they didn't do their time in jail. Their "punbishment" is an insult in the face of justice. And I was jsut being a little extreme, because I was greatly troubled and upset by that whole story.
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Chairman-Mao said:
I do however stand by a nation's right to sovereignty as long as its "legal" (passed by their legitimate government). |
So I assume you support the Holocaust, no? That was passed by a legitimate Government also.
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