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Should People Take Justice Into Their Own Hands (partocular case)

Yes 48 57.83%
 
No 32 38.55%
 
Total:80

In 1993 James Bulger, a 2 year old boy from the UK, was kidnapped, brutally tortured, mutilated and murdered by two 10 year old monsters named Robert Thompson and John Venables. After just 8 years of detention in a juvenile facility, and are now free, with new identities, protected by the police.

Apprearently they were found to no longer be threats to society, even though neither of them shoed any remorse after they were released. In 2010 Venables was imprisoned for possessing child porn.

The other monster is free to walk the streets. And no one knows who he is, so people can't even take the necessary precautions against him, as they don't know who his identity is.

Appearently these days "justice" is no longer important. It's all about "rehabilitation" nonsense, and putting the blame on everything (the media, parents, music, video games, society), but never the person who actually commited the crime.

This whole situation makes me sick. I can't stop thinking about that poor 2 year old boy criend as those bastards did those terrible things to him. I hope their true identity is discovered by some decent human being who'll blow their brains out, and finally bring this case to an end. It's the only fair thing to do.

 

Here's tghe wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger#2010_imprisonment_of_Venables

You'll find details about the brutal torture and murder over there. It's all really nauseating really. Sorry about the rant, but I just needed to get this out.



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I find your rejection of rehabilitation disturbing.  These kids were obviously psychopaths, normal people don't  kidnap other kids and kill them.  It's better to address the problem to reduce the occurance to null rather then to allow the problem to continue on and then brutally commit the same acts that you find so offensive.



I think the whole "Justice vs Rehabilitation" is the wrong way of looking at things. Justice is just another way of saying revenge and rehabilitation is just being touted becasue jails are overcrowded.

I look at it all in a more cold, efficient manner.

People that have proven themselves capable of killing are dangerous and should be locked away forever, so that other people that don't kill people can be safe.

On topic. Yes, I do think taking justice in your own hands can be appropriate.

Sometimes, I imagine what I would do to someone if that person did or tried to do something horrible to someone I love. I wouldn't hestitate a second to take justice in my own hands. Especially if I were that kid's father.



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I hit yes in the poll but since then I've changed my mind. 

I don't think people should take justice into their own hands because people will start hurting each other based on speculation.

 

I do think there are certain situations when justice should be taken into people's hands though. Like say a guy who raped and killed 3 women is allowed to go free based on a legal technicality (ie the evidence was obtained without a warrant, but clearly shows he did it) then I think he should be murdered as soon as he steps out the courthouse. 



As a general guideline people should not resort to vigilante justice; but I understand how people could feel like it is the right thing to do.

 



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In no situation in a country with a functioning justice system should justice be taken into the hands of the people.



You have to refrain from vigilante justice, it will only lead to more harm than good.I can see a justice system that allows for vigilantism only leading to tit-for-tat vigilantism and people effectively taking the law into their own hands and deciding themselves what is right and wrong, which will just make the justice system unfair.

As for rehabilitation vs just locking someone away, I agree some people should be locked away forever for some crimes, but in most cases rehabilitation works well. The Victorians hit on the idea that rehabilitation is an effective way to lower re-offending rates, and they were right.



When people took justice in their own hands they don't feel good that they did it...Some do for a few days;..But almost everyone feels bad that they took justice in their own hands;..   You probably had a situation like that aswell on forums or in your family/friendclub...Someone fucks you up...You get mad....And you say some horrible things...Next day you wake up and think..'why did I said that;..I feel so stupid'...

Just try to use energy of your anger to help people like other victims...



 

highwaystar101 said:

You have to refrain from vigilante justice, it will only lead to more harm than good.I can see a justice system that allows for vigilantism only leading to tit-for-tat vigilantism and people effectively taking the law into their own hands and deciding themselves what is right and wrong, which will just make the justice system unfair.

As for rehabilitation vs just locking someone away, I agree some people should be locked away forever for some crimes, but in most cases rehabilitation works well. The Victorians hit on the idea that rehabilitation is an effective way to lower re-offending rates, and they were right.

In the case that I mentioned in my first post, I doubt you can say that "rehabilitation" worked. One of them is back in prison, after getting into several physical fights and having child pornography on his PC. The other one was descirbed by psychologists as being much more cold and calculated, so he's probably commited terrible acts, but managed to cover his tracks.

And people who commit terrible acts should be punished for what they do. 8 years in a juvenile institution, living in better conditions than most kids, and then staring a new life, where the police protect them, and they can do all the nasty stuff they want to... THAT'S NOT PUNISHMENT!

Rehabilitaion is a good ideea in lots of cases, but not when it comes to murderers. Especially murderers who kidnapped, tortured, mutilated, and killed a 2 year old boy (and I don't care if they themselves were children). They don't deserve rehabilitation, all they deserve is punishment. And the law should be preocupied protecting it's citizens, not trying to "rehabilitate" cold blooded murderers at the expense of the safety of law abiding citizens.They aren't even sprry for what they did.

At this point the only fair thing to do would be to shoot those bastards, and I can only hope someone gets the opportunity and does it. Only then will things be as they should be.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

KungKras said:

I think the whole "Justice vs Rehabilitation" is the wrong way of looking at things. Justice is just another way of saying revenge and rehabilitation is just being touted becasue jails are overcrowded.

I look at it all in a more cold, efficient manner.

People that have proven themselves capable of killing are dangerous and should be locked away forever, so that other people that don't kill people can be safe.

On topic. Yes, I do think taking justice in your own hands can be appropriate.

Sometimes, I imagine what I would do to someone if that person did or tried to do something horrible to someone I love. I wouldn't hestitate a second to take justice in my own hands. Especially if I were that kid's father.

I agree with your post. FTR, I think people should only take justice into their pwn hands when the law proves to be incompetent (like in the case of my first post).



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)