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Should People Take Justice Into Their Own Hands (partocular case)

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Porcupine_I on 30 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:

so you keep talking about what they deserve, and how people should take justice in their own hand, but you dodging the questions i am asking. You seem to want others to do that for you.

Tell me, would you be the one who will pull the trigger and what do you deserve if you do?

The person who'd kill those bastards would be a hero. He shouldn't get any punishment. But with the stupid justice system who appearently protects criminals, and not innocents, I wouldn't be surprised that he'd be deemed a danger to society (kinda like how it's always the victims who get punished for fighting back at US schools, while the bullies are protected, sent to a councilors office, and then back on the halls, free to beat kids up).

again, you avoid answering my question.

But I did answer it. That someone could be me (though it probably wouldn't be me, as I'm a pacifist, as someone on this forum says ).

could be, shmould be.

You are just one of these "someone should do something" people.

they always know the "right thing to do" but they are not ready to actually do it.

but it's ok, at least you made the effort to think about what could happen to "someone" who would actually do what you want them to do and suddenly there are consequences, and it's not that black and white any more.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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pizzahut451 on 30 January 2011

OMG, we should call Dexter !!!!!!!!!!



sapphi_snake on 30 January 2011
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:

so you keep talking about what they deserve, and how people should take justice in their own hand, but you dodging the questions i am asking. You seem to want others to do that for you.

Tell me, would you be the one who will pull the trigger and what do you deserve if you do?

The person who'd kill those bastards would be a hero. He shouldn't get any punishment. But with the stupid justice system who appearently protects criminals, and not innocents, I wouldn't be surprised that he'd be deemed a danger to society (kinda like how it's always the victims who get punished for fighting back at US schools, while the bullies are protected, sent to a councilors office, and then back on the halls, free to beat kids up).

again, you avoid answering my question.

But I did answer it. That someone could be me (though it probably wouldn't be me, as I'm a pacifist, as someone on this forum says ).

could be, shmould be.

You are just one of these "someone should do something" people.

they always know the "right thing to do" but they are not ready to actually do it.

but it's ok, at least you made the effort to think about what could happen to "someone" who would actually do what you want them to do and suddenly there are consequences, and it's not that black and white any more.

It still is black and white actually. The consiquences of such an action are unfair, as the action is perfectly justified.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake on 30 January 2011
pizzahut451 said:

OMG, we should call Dexter !!!!!!!!!!

That's actually a pretty good ideea. He'd so teach those bastards a lesson!



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

pizzahut451 on 30 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

OMG, we should call Dexter !!!!!!!!!!

That's actually a pretty good ideea. He'd so teach those bastards a lesson!


Haha, funny thing is, Dexter isn't really diffrent than those 2 10 year olds you described



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Porcupine_I on 30 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:

so you keep talking about what they deserve, and how people should take justice in their own hand, but you dodging the questions i am asking. You seem to want others to do that for you.

Tell me, would you be the one who will pull the trigger and what do you deserve if you do?

The person who'd kill those bastards would be a hero. He shouldn't get any punishment. But with the stupid justice system who appearently protects criminals, and not innocents, I wouldn't be surprised that he'd be deemed a danger to society (kinda like how it's always the victims who get punished for fighting back at US schools, while the bullies are protected, sent to a councilors office, and then back on the halls, free to beat kids up).

again, you avoid answering my question.

But I did answer it. That someone could be me (though it probably wouldn't be me, as I'm a pacifist, as someone on this forum says ).

could be, shmould be.

You are just one of these "someone should do something" people.

they always know the "right thing to do" but they are not ready to actually do it.

but it's ok, at least you made the effort to think about what could happen to "someone" who would actually do what you want them to do and suddenly there are consequences, and it's not that black and white any more.

It still is black and white actually. The consiquences of such an action are unfair, as the action is perfectly justified.

Justified by whom?

By you?

What kind of deeper insight do you have into this case to make such a claim?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

sapphi_snake on 30 January 2011
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

OMG, we should call Dexter !!!!!!!!!!

That's actually a pretty good ideea. He'd so teach those bastards a lesson!


Haha, funny thing is, Dexter isn't really diffrent than those 2 10 year olds you described

Not really. He kills evil people who avoid the law. Those psychos I descibed kill little children for fun. They're Dexter, if he were evil and didn'tcontrol himself.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake on 30 January 2011
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:

so you keep talking about what they deserve, and how people should take justice in their own hand, but you dodging the questions i am asking. You seem to want others to do that for you.

Tell me, would you be the one who will pull the trigger and what do you deserve if you do?

The person who'd kill those bastards would be a hero. He shouldn't get any punishment. But with the stupid justice system who appearently protects criminals, and not innocents, I wouldn't be surprised that he'd be deemed a danger to society (kinda like how it's always the victims who get punished for fighting back at US schools, while the bullies are protected, sent to a councilors office, and then back on the halls, free to beat kids up).

again, you avoid answering my question.

But I did answer it. That someone could be me (though it probably wouldn't be me, as I'm a pacifist, as someone on this forum says ).

could be, shmould be.

You are just one of these "someone should do something" people.

they always know the "right thing to do" but they are not ready to actually do it.

but it's ok, at least you made the effort to think about what could happen to "someone" who would actually do what you want them to do and suddenly there are consequences, and it's not that black and white any more.

It still is black and white actually. The consiquences of such an action are unfair, as the action is perfectly justified.

Justified by whom?

By you?

What kind of deeper insight do you have into this case to make such a claim?

Well, do you think that it's right that they're free to walk the streets, while that 2 year old boy is 6 feet under?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Porcupine_I on 30 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:
sapphi_snake said:
Porcupine_I said:

so you keep talking about what they deserve, and how people should take justice in their own hand, but you dodging the questions i am asking. You seem to want others to do that for you.

Tell me, would you be the one who will pull the trigger and what do you deserve if you do?

The person who'd kill those bastards would be a hero. He shouldn't get any punishment. But with the stupid justice system who appearently protects criminals, and not innocents, I wouldn't be surprised that he'd be deemed a danger to society (kinda like how it's always the victims who get punished for fighting back at US schools, while the bullies are protected, sent to a councilors office, and then back on the halls, free to beat kids up).

again, you avoid answering my question.

But I did answer it. That someone could be me (though it probably wouldn't be me, as I'm a pacifist, as someone on this forum says ).

could be, shmould be.

You are just one of these "someone should do something" people.

they always know the "right thing to do" but they are not ready to actually do it.

but it's ok, at least you made the effort to think about what could happen to "someone" who would actually do what you want them to do and suddenly there are consequences, and it's not that black and white any more.

It still is black and white actually. The consiquences of such an action are unfair, as the action is perfectly justified.

Justified by whom?

By you?

What kind of deeper insight do you have into this case to make such a claim?

Well, do you think that it's right that they're free to walk the streets, while that 2 year old boy is 6 feet under?

hold the moral sledgehammer.

i never defended anything they did, i simply question your standpoint in this case.

you are the one asking for the death of people. but you are not ready to kill them yourself, because you are scared of the consequences.

what does that make you in the end?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

sapphi_snake on 30 January 2011
Porcupine_I said:

hold the moral sledgehammer.

i never defended anything they did, i simply question your standpoint in this case.

you are the one asking for the death of people. but you are not ready to kill them yourself, because you are scared of the consequences.

what does that make you in the end?

A coward? But the reason I wouldn't want to kill them does not have anything do to woth my fear of "consiquences". I'm just not cold blooded enough to be a good executioner. There are people better suited for that.

 

Now what does your desire to let child killers on the streets make you?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)