zgamer5 said:
from what weve learned in afghanistan, iraq, and vietnam the us arent such a big power house. yes they have technology, but if china practices gurrila warfare the only thing the us can do is kill civilians and make oil pipe lines. |
Why would the US Make Oil Pipelines in China? China doesn't really have oil.
Outside that, if china started fighting a Gorilla War... the US will have already won.
SamuelRSmith said:
Against all expectations, Iraq was won in about 6 weeks. The issue is that it all happened so fast, they weren't prepared for the country's collapse. |
That and they stupidly disbaneded the national army and security forces despite it being one of the main employers and in general mostly filled with people who just wanted a paycheck.
They should of just kept the army intact, rooted out the hardcore bathists, and train additional troops as a counter measure. Would of been "out of Iraq" a year earlier at least.
zgamer5 said:
from what weve learned in afghanistan, iraq, and vietnam the us arent such a big power house. yes they have technology, but if china practices gurrila warfare the only thing the us can do is kill civilians and make oil pipe lines. |
Well Afghanistan/Iraq is kind of a shitty example of US power IMO. If they really went ALL OUT I'm talking full on total war they could rip apart anyone. They have shit like gunships, stealth bombers, ICBM's, etc. and lets not forget nuclear bombs. The US could probably make any country surrender without sending in a single soldier.
Of course all this involves killing tons of civilians, not just enemy soldiers.
SamuelRSmith said:
Against all expectations, Iraq was won in about 6 weeks. The issue is that it all happened so fast, they weren't prepared for the country's collapse. |
You do realise that Powell and co claimed they would control all of Iraq and downtown Baghdad in five days in the original brief? And that it actually took around 13 months? There were pockets of resistance in Baghdad for well over a year after the invasion and I still can't see how anyone (outside of someone watching only Fox News all day) can think that this war is "won" in any kind of way. There is no winning in Iraq and Afghanistan, just like there was no winning in Vietnam.
Also, Chairman-Mao; taking out China one on-one "easily" would not happen. There is still only the slightest semblance of control in Afghanistan and Iraq, with the aid of NATO mind you and there is nothing resembling peace or victory at this point.
The US is the biggest military superpower today, no doubt, but people seem to have a very strange view on just how powerful it is. No one today could best China "easily" and no one could conquer and control Afghanistan and Iraq. Look and Lebanon and Haiti and Somalia, that is the future of Iraq and Afghanistan.
| freebs2 said: The best country in the world is generally the one you live in. |
Tell that to the people living in Somalia. 
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| RolStoppable said: Donkey Kong Country Returns. |
Jeeez, get a life :0
on topic:
1. italy 2. spain 3. russia
Fedor Emelianenko - Greatest Fighter and most humble man to ever walk the earth:
The USA. The USA>Roman Empire> Byzantine Empire> Macedonia>everything else. Although I do admire Israel simply because they are in my religion, gods chosen people, and they manage to survive in a world where a lot of nations would not hesitate to massacre them.
"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius
| homer said: The USA. The USA>Roman Empire> Byzantine Empire> Macedonia>everything else. Although I do admire Israel simply because they are in my religion, gods chosen people, and they manage to survive in a world where a lot of nations would not hesitate to massacre them. |
Yup, they just rape us in taxes and drafts! (Israeli here!)
Brazil?
sapphi_snake said:
Tell that to the people living in Somalia. |
In fact I said generally, also I don't think that living in a poor country does automatically mean to hate it.
However, since I'm lucky I don't know.
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