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MrT-Tar on 15 January 2011
ghettoglamour said:

Yeah and did you know cheese is made out of milk? Thanks Mr. Obvious ;)

 

Btw:  Platforming dead? did you hear about LittleBigPlanet? Ratchet & Clank? It may be not as popular as 10 years before, but it's still far from dead.


2001 was nowhere near as good for platformers compared to now, the best selling platformer in 2001 was:

20
Super Mario Advance (GBA)
Nintendo
3.22 0.92 1.35 5.49

and that's a remake of a NES game, in recent years we've had the likes of NSMBWii, LBP and DKCR.




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miqdadi on 15 January 2011

It's obvious because Nintendo is the king of platform , they have always been . 

There are other platform games selling this generation so it ain't dead yet , and with NSMB doing all those sales then it's obviously not dead.



NotStan on 15 January 2011
Zlejedi said:
Lucas-Rio said:

The results are very clear.

Platformers only sell on Wii now on home console and it's a dead genre on HD consoles. That explains why the choice of Epic Mickey being on Wii was the perfect choice.

Did he just said FPS and RPG are dead on Wii and noone should bother with them or am I reading into it too deeply? :)

You tripping balls.

 

Wow at the Kung Fu panda numbers, that is some intense bundling. Possibly one of the most biggest movie tie ins in terms of sales?



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LivingMetal on 15 January 2011

Platforming and RPG;'s are my favorite genres.  LittleBigPlanet, PixelJunk Eden, Ratchet & Clank: TOFD, Ratchet & Clank: QFB, Ratchet & Clank: CIT, and The Sly Cooper Collection.  Awesome stuff.



Lucas-Rio on 15 January 2011
Pineapple said:

This is hardly surprising. Platformers have always been Nintendo's franchise. To date, only one Nintendo platform had less than 10% of its sales from platformers (the Gamecube), and not a single non-Nintendo machine has had even 7%, although the PsP got very close.

You can call platforming dead on the Ps3, but the Ps3 is selling equally many platformers as all non-Nintendo machines ever have.

Note that the older machines might have slightly lacking data, so they're probably a tiny bit higher than represented here. The percentages are the percentage of total software sales that are platformers. The total software sales were found here: http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81136/big-three-shipment-update-forecasts-through-june-2010/ , except for the current generation machines which are just sold to date.

Gameboy Gameboy Colour: 66.4 million (13%)
Gameboy Advance: 51.5 million (13.5%)
Nintendo DS: 67.9 million (10.5%)
Playstation Portable: 14 million (7%)

Nintendo Entertainment System: 90.1 million (18%)

Super Nintendo Entertainment System: 65.7 million (16.5%)
Sega Genesis: 14.04 million (Roughly 3.5% )

Playstation 1: 47 million (5%)
Nintendo 64: 34.2 million (15%)
Saturn: 0.83 million (No idea)

Playstation 2: 44.15 million (3%)
Gamecube: 15.7 million (8%)
Xbox: 6 million (3%)

Wii: 64.6 million (10.5%)
Ps3: 11.72 million (3.33%)
X360: 9 million (2%)

 

Very interesting numbers but like you said, VGChartz may be missing a tons of games from the NES/SNES era.

Anyway, we can clearly see the declines of platforming both in terms of % and in term of units on home console from the NES generation until the last generation.

The Wii is now responsible for a new growth and a rebirth of this genre. and I am very happy of that. The Wii has already passed any non Nintendo console and should reach the 70 millions, because NSMBWii, SMG2, Donkey Kong and Epic Mickey will continue to sell well and because Kirby has not been released in Europe.

The Wii will be rememebered as one of the best machine for platformers and it will be his legacy eventhough the % of platformers is lower than in the previous Nintendo console excepted the gamecube.

This genre that a lot of people thought extinct has still a lot of fans.



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Lucas-Rio on 15 January 2011
pastro243 said:

Well, Im not arguing, but Id like to see some averages to have a clearer view.

Also, we all know that nintendo systems usually focus on platformers, while other consoles in the past have had great platformer sellers like Crash Bandicoot or more recently LBP but these arent the prime sellers. What Im trying to say is that there are more platforming efforts on Nintendo systems than on others. Its like doing the same but with shooters instead, Im guessing it would favor the 360, then ps3 and then wii.

Someone else in this thread pointed out that it would mean that the shooter genre was "dead" on Wii, the same argument than you.

And I approve. The shooters sells a ton on Xbox 360 and almost nothing on Wii in comparison. It's fair to say that the shooter genre is quite dead on Wii the same way the platformers are dead on the HD consoles.

Bottom line is that if you want a console to play platformers, then it's the Wii you need and it's on the Wii that developpers should target their focus. If you want shooters it's a whole different story.



Degausser on 15 January 2011

 I wish there were more platformers out there tbh, and not just 2D ones >_>. SMG1 and 2 are absolutely amazing but they're pretty much the only 3D platformers out there nowadays, aside from ratchet and Clank who while fun have sort of burnt out on me. I wish they'd bring back GOOD Crash, Spyro, Jak and Daxter, 3D Donkey games etc.

 I don't mind the 2D stuff but I'm starting to prefer the indie / downloadalbe side of that like Braid and VVVVVV. Dunno why, I think I just have trouble paying full price for a 2D platformer that essentially just plays like a SNES game, but will never live up to the crazy pedestal I put those games on now with my nostalgia tinted glasses.

Sonic 4 really didn't do anything for me either... I keep trying to like it but it just feels so, lifeless.



radiantshadow92 on 15 January 2011

It makes sense. I don't own a WII, and the platform genre is my least favorite. Especially the 2d platform genre.



jarrod on 15 January 2011
Doobie_wop said:

Most of the HD plat-forming base are on their online networks. Limbo, Joe Danger, S'plosionman, P.B. Winterbottom, Blade Kitten, Trine, Braid, Raskulls, Shadow Complex, Super Meat Boy (probably the best of it's genre), Quest for Booty and heaps more are available to download between the two platforms. They may not get the same sales compared to the  mega games like the five or so Mario games that makes up the Wii's number, but the plat-forming genre is alive and well online and the releases have been pretty consistent and frequent. 

Also, as someone else mentioned earlier, comparing the best selling genre from one platform to another can only end badly when people start coming in with FPS console comparisons, RPG console comparisons, Hack 'n' Slash console comparisons and so on.

Wii also has FAR more platformers on Virtual Console / WiiWare than they do retail.  Super Mario Bros. on VC has likely outsold every XBLA or PSN platformer by itself.



Doobie_wop on 15 January 2011
jarrod said:
Doobie_wop said:

Most of the HD plat-forming base are on their online networks. Limbo, Joe Danger, S'plosionman, P.B. Winterbottom, Blade Kitten, Trine, Braid, Raskulls, Shadow Complex, Super Meat Boy (probably the best of it's genre), Quest for Booty and heaps more are available to download between the two platforms. They may not get the same sales compared to the  mega games like the five or so Mario games that makes up the Wii's number, but the plat-forming genre is alive and well online and the releases have been pretty consistent and frequent. 

Also, as someone else mentioned earlier, comparing the best selling genre from one platform to another can only end badly when people start coming in with FPS console comparisons, RPG console comparisons, Hack 'n' Slash console comparisons and so on.

Wii also has FAR more platformers on Virtual Console / WiiWare than they do retail.  Super Mario Bros. on VC has likely outsold every XBLA or PSN platformer by itself.

I'm guessing that Super Mario Bros. has probably been emulated  on Android phones more often than the total PSN/XBLA platforming sales combined, it doesn't take away from my point that the HD on line services have been very consistent with quality and frequent platfromers. The OP said that the genre was dead on the HD consoles, I argued that it's alive and well, but it's limited to the online services. Hell, a few of the Game of the Year attendees from 2010 were Joe Danger, P.B. Winterbottom and Limbo (sources mainly include Weekend Confirmed, Giant Bomb and Joystiq). 

Just because one thing does better than another, it doesn't make the other thing a failure.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752