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Alby_da_Wolf on 14 January 2011
Hyruken said:
ethomaz said:
Hyruken said:
ethomaz said:

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Really? Hummmmm...

NPD is US only... PS3 US is about  83% of NA... the others consoles are 86% (Wii) and 87% (360) if I remember.

So make the maths and show me the 550k overtracked.


I think we all know NPD is US only...

This is the maths.

3rd of January 2010 to 1st January 2011 vgc has PS3 at 5.542m  in Americas.

5.542m  x 0.89 = 4.932m PS3 units in US for 2010 on VGC.

NPD for 2010 have PS3 at 4.319m units for the year.

4.932m  -  4.319m  = 613k  difference.

I.e VGC has PS3 over-tracked by 613k in comparison to NPD for the year of 2010.

That is the maths.

So remember every time you say you want the 360 marked down because VGC have it over-tracked in comparison with NPD, remember to mention the PS3 too in that won't you :)

5.542m  x 0.83 = 4.6k

300k difference... and that not the law here... just ioi know the real US numbers of VGC... all the others maths are just estimations.

Like the last adjustments on 360... the estimates says 2.6m for December in US (based in NA numbers) but the adjustmanet was just 300k... so the real US number was 2.2m and not 2.6m.

So if the proportion for PS3 are 0.79 =  4.37m.


It isn't x 0.83 or 0.79.... it has been between x0.87 and x0.89 always. If your going to use maths to try and proove a point at least have the right numbers.

It is quite funny that you can't seem to accept that all three consoles have been over-tracked. Does it really bother you that much?

As PS3 is stronger outside of USA than inside and XB360 the opposite, it's obvious that PS3 US multiplier must be lower than XB360 one. By how much, IDK, USA is the biggest single national market in the world by far, with numbers far larger than the rest of America, so the difference won't be big anyway, but it exists nevertheless, and it's granted to become larger when XB360 is particularly stronger than usual in USA, like it happened after Kinect launch.



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postofficebuddy on 14 January 2011
Hyruken said:
ethomaz said:
Hyruken said:
ethomaz said:
XanderZane said:
ethomaz said:

Like I said before the numbers now are off...

360 overtracked here by 700k in US (NPD numbers).


LOL!! What?!? If that's true, then the PS3 is probably overtracked as well and so is the Wii. We'll see how much the numbers are off. I doubt is 700K.

The gap will grow for the next few months I think. Only Japan is keeping the PS3 close right now. If Japan drops down to the 20K-25K, then the 360 will definitely have a gap increase.

With the Kinect price dropping before the holidays as well as the XBox 360, sales for these systems are going to increase like crazy. Especially in America. PS3 sales in U.S. were not the greatest this holiday. At one point both the Wii and 360 outsold the PS3 by 2:1 in the U.S.

Why PS3 will be overtracked too???

Anyway 360 and Wii adjusted DOWN... PS3 flat because it never overtracked here.

Soon 360 will be ajusted down in EMEAA too... waiting financial numbers.

And PS3 WON this and last week WW.

As others have mentioned and myself time and time again it would seem...

If your basing your "everything needs to be adjusted down except the PS3" thing on NPD numbers then PS3 is 550k over-tracked for the year on VGC, in comparison to NPD.

There have been months where the PS3 was severely over-tracked on VGC in the last year and it didn't get adjusted down. Most recently november where it was over-tracked by well over 100k.

Can't have it both ways. If you want 360 and Wii to be adjusted down on the basis of NPD numbers then you have to want PS3 to go down too. For the year PS3 was just as over-tracked as the 360 was.

Really? Hummmmm...

NPD is US only... PS3 US is about  83% of NA... the others consoles are 86% (Wii) and 87% (360) if I remember.

So make the maths and show me the 550k overtracked.


I think we all know NPD is US only...

This is the maths.

3rd of January 2010 to 1st January 2011 vgc has PS3 at 5.542m  in Americas.

5.542m  x 0.89 = 4.932m PS3 units in US for 2010 on VGC.

NPD for 2010 have PS3 at 4.319m units for the year.

4.932m  -  4.319m  = 613k  difference.

I.e VGC has PS3 over-tracked by 613k in comparison to NPD for the year of 2010.

That is the maths.

So remember every time you say you want the 360 marked down because VGC have it over-tracked in comparison with NPD, remember to mention the PS3 too in that won't you :)


Canada alone accounts for a much larger percentage of PS3 sales than most people think. NPD put USA sales between January and September last year at 2.35 million. In the same time frame PS3 sold about 300k in Canada.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3677656

Which means that in that time frame Canada accounted for 10% of total Americas sales. And that's before including Latin America. On top of that if Sony achieve their target of 3 million sold in Canada by the end of 2011 then it would probably account for an even larger percentage of total Americas sales.



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Carl on 14 January 2011
MonstaMack said:

What was the total of 360's unit sold in 2010 WW vs PS3 WW?

360 - 14,018,360

PS3 - 14,397,555



                            

ethomaz on 27 January 2011
Carl2291 said:
MonstaMack said:

What was the total of 360's unit sold in 2010 WW vs PS3 WW?

360 - 14,018,360

PS3 - 14,397,555

New numbers for 2010 WW...

360 - 13,590,985

PS3 - 14,390,096

Like I said before... waiting adjustments before says anything.

The GAP now is 3.9m.



ethomaz on 27 January 2011

Holy crap... new GAP new adjustment.

360 - 13,657,231

PS3 - 14,311,814

GAP now: 4.1m



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ramses01 on 27 January 2011

One thing to consider for EMAA is that Kinect doesn't currently offer voice support.  Once that kicks in this spring, the European audience may increase its adoption of kinect.



Eddie_Raja on 27 January 2011

The numbers have been adjusted, PS3 is 4 million away and still has a slew of exclusives this year with MS having 1!

I predict that the gap will close to ~3 million by the time there are price cuts this fall.



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mundus6 on 28 January 2011
Eddie_Raja said:

The numbers have been adjusted, PS3 is 4 million away and still has a slew of exclusives this year with MS having 1!

I predict that the gap will close to ~3 million by the time there are price cuts this fall.


Right cause Forza doesn't count as an exclusive? Plus Microsoft is good at keeping secrets. They will probably announce at least 1 new game before the years end which will come this year (probably Halo). They did it 2008 with Gears and 2010 with Fable.



ethomaz on 28 January 2011

Calm down people... wait the shipped from Sony at 3rd Feb.

I guess some 7 million sold coming and the GAP closing even more.



Mr Puggsly on 28 January 2011
ethomaz said:

Calm down people... wait the shipped from Sony at 3rd Feb.

I guess some 7 million sold coming and the GAP closing even more.

Dude, its Janauary. I wasn't expecting people to follow every week and adjustment.

Remember last year, the gap was closing and then the holidays came.



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