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Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Soriku said:

Featuring Lightning, Vanille, and Fang as the protagonists?

Vanille and Fang are dead, so no.


Errr... No, they're not dead.  They turned into crystal after completing their focus. ¬_¬

No if they come back the crystal pillar will break and Cocoon will collide with Pulse which could cause massive earthquakes. Those characters are as good as dead, FFXIII-2's plot will probably revolve around some other Evil that was mentioned in one of the analects (the evil the arks were built for) but not explored further in depth in the game.



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Rob-Ot said:
Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Soriku said:

Featuring Lightning, Vanille, and Fang as the protagonists?

Vanille and Fang are dead, so no.


Errr... No, they're not dead.  They turned into crystal after completing their focus. ¬_¬

No if they come back the crystal pillar will break and pulse will collide with cocoon which could cause massive earthquakes. Those characters are as good as dead, FFXIII-2's plot will probably revolve around some other Evil that was mentioned in one of the analects (the evil the arks were built for) but not explored further in depth in the game.


That is a very narrow minded way to see this.  For all we know, they could easily find a way to make them come back.  Like, you know... using some Fal'Cie to help make Cocoon land on pulse without destroying everything, or you know, something better that you clearly can't think of.



Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Soriku said:

Featuring Lightning, Vanille, and Fang as the protagonists?

Vanille and Fang are dead, so no.


Errr... No, they're not dead.  They turned into crystal after completing their focus. ¬_¬

No if they come back the crystal pillar will break and pulse will collide with cocoon which could cause massive earthquakes. Those characters are as good as dead, FFXIII-2's plot will probably revolve around some other Evil that was mentioned in one of the analects (the evil the arks were built for) but not explored further in depth in the game.


That is a very narrow minded way to see this.  For all we know, they could easily find a way to make them come back.  Like, you know... using the Fal'Cie to help make Cocoon land on pulse without destroying everything, or you know, something better that you clearly can't think of.

I can probably think up of a better story for a game than any SE has made in the last 12 years, so don't go there. No need for personal insults, I just told you how impractical it is for Fang/Vanille to come back, the character arc of those seems to be over, thats why I define them as dead. Why would fal'cie want to land cocoon on Pulse? 1/3rd of it got destroyed (according to epilogue novel) so its useless, besides there are no fal'cie left, they all died at the end of FFXIII.



No... FF13 is crap enought we don't need another all, it's all fault of good sales they think that the game is actually good...



ryuatsui said:

No... FF13 is crap enought we don't need another all, it's all fault of good sales they think that the game is actually good...

But the problem is many people didn't think it was crap. Its like a 50/50 divide. That would still get SE around 3 Million in sales for the game making it very profitable. Either way if shitty games like White Knight Chronicles get sequels this is nothing bad at all.



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Rob-Ot said:
Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Soriku said:

Featuring Lightning, Vanille, and Fang as the protagonists?

Vanille and Fang are dead, so no.


Errr... No, they're not dead.  They turned into crystal after completing their focus. ¬_¬

No if they come back the crystal pillar will break and pulse will collide with cocoon which could cause massive earthquakes. Those characters are as good as dead, FFXIII-2's plot will probably revolve around some other Evil that was mentioned in one of the analects (the evil the arks were built for) but not explored further in depth in the game.


That is a very narrow minded way to see this.  For all we know, they could easily find a way to make them come back.  Like, you know... using the Fal'Cie to help make Cocoon land on pulse without destroying everything, or you know, something better that you clearly can't think of.

I can probably think up of a better story for a game than any SE has made in the last 12 years, so don't go there. No need for personal insults, I just told you how impractical it is for Fang/Vanille to come back, the character arc of those seems to be over, thats why I define them as dead. Why would fal'cie want to land cocoon on Pulse? 1/3rd of it got destroyed (according to epilogue novel) so its useless, besides there are no fal'cie left, they all died at the end of FFXIII.

Anyone can say they can do better than someone.  Now, when it comes to proving it, that's an other story entirely. So, sorry if I'm going there, but I don't believe you can make a better story than they made in the last 12 years.  

Now, re-read what I typed carefully, because I swear you really didn't understand a thing: "For all we know, they could easily find a way to make them come back.  Like, you know... using the Fal'Cie to help make Cocoon land on Pulse without destroying everything."  If they want to bring back Vanille and Fang, that's a potential way of dealing with the problem.  Although there are undoubtedly better ways of addressing it.

Now as far as all the Fal'Cie dying at the end of the game are concerned... When, where, how? 

You do know that Pulse has Fal'Cie too, right?  Dahj and Sarah were turned into crystal after completing their focus, yet at the end, they turned back to normal after the death of Orphan.  

Fang and Vanille turned to crystal and stayed this way (duh!), meaning the Pulse Fal'Cie that gave them their focus is still alive and well.  As far as the ending is concerned, there is absolutely nothing that says the Pulse Fal'Cie died along with Orphan.  



Porcupine_I said:

hhmm, the story has set up a prequel anyway. Vanille and Fang before they come to Cocoon.

Exactly my thoughts.

Come on SE, give me that prequel!!



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Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Hynad said:
Rob-Ot said:
Soriku said:

Featuring Lightning, Vanille, and Fang as the protagonists?

Vanille and Fang are dead, so no.


Errr... No, they're not dead.  They turned into crystal after completing their focus. ¬_¬

No if they come back the crystal pillar will break and pulse will collide with cocoon which could cause massive earthquakes. Those characters are as good as dead, FFXIII-2's plot will probably revolve around some other Evil that was mentioned in one of the analects (the evil the arks were built for) but not explored further in depth in the game.


That is a very narrow minded way to see this.  For all we know, they could easily find a way to make them come back.  Like, you know... using the Fal'Cie to help make Cocoon land on pulse without destroying everything, or you know, something better that you clearly can't think of.

I can probably think up of a better story for a game than any SE has made in the last 12 years, so don't go there. No need for personal insults, I just told you how impractical it is for Fang/Vanille to come back, the character arc of those seems to be over, thats why I define them as dead. Why would fal'cie want to land cocoon on Pulse? 1/3rd of it got destroyed (according to epilogue novel) so its useless, besides there are no fal'cie left, they all died at the end of FFXIII.

Anyone can say they can do better than someone.  Now, when it comes to proving it, that's an other story entirely. So, sorry if I'm going there, but I don't believe you can make a better story than they made in the last 12 years.  I

Now, re-read what I typed carefully, because I swear you really didn't understand a thing: "Like, you know... using the Fal'Cie to help make Cocoon land on Pulse without destroying everything."

Now as far as all the Fal'Cie dying at the end of the game... When, where, how? 

You do know that Pulse has Fal'Cie too, right?  Dahj and Sarah were turned into crystal after completing their focus, yet at the end, they turned back to normal after the death of Orphan.  

Fang and Vanille turned to crystal and stayed this way (duh!), meaning the Pulse Fal'Cie that gave them their focus is still alive and well.  As far as the ending is concerned, there is absolutely nothing that says the Pulse Fal'Cie died along with Orphan.  

Have you even seen the ending or what cocoon looks like?

You can't just make it "land" on pulse, its the size of the moon and it would just roll if it landed, get it?. Yes all the fal'cie died as soon as orphan was slain as they were all controlled by Orphan and no Pulse doesn't have Fal'cie, pulse has Titan's (Titan atomos, Titan they see at the top of the tower e.t.c.), any Pulse Fal'cie were taken to Cocoon during the war of transgression and they all perished at the end too as coon fell from the sky. Read the datalog the next time you play the game, your making lots of factual mistakes.



i hope they change it dramatically unlike FFX-2 (which i actually liked because i liked FFX)



RolStoppable said:

Wouldn't surprise me if they really made a direct sequel, because FF XIII did cost a lot of money to make. This is an easy way to reuse most of the very same assets.

Not to mention the assets they made that didn't make it into the original.

OT: Gods no. Not getting this if it's anything like XIII.