DKC R and WP were all developed in less than 8 months and with less than a 3 millions budget like NSMB Wii (since they can fit in half of a CD), didn't you heard the trollers?

Well Nintendo did fail big time in one thing:  They didn't secure a Star Wars game that let you use the Wiimote like a lightsaber.  Kinect has already corrected this MAJOR error by Nintendo.

More LucasArts fault, i would say. Some devs were more than happy to pounce on Motion Plus's opportunities, but LucasArts sat by and twiddled their thumbs

I'd disagree, Microsoft has been branding, pushing, promoting and referring to Kinect as a "new platform".  It has a definite casual thrust (upfront at least), but I think a platform to platform comparison is still fair considering how it's being handled.  It's very much unlike how peripherals or controllers have been handled in the past, and much more like the system add-ons of old (like the Famicom Disc System or Sega CD), which were also considered distinct platforms to a large degree.

I agree with your other points though, Wii definitely had a more rounded launch lineup and arguably might higher quality (Zelda alone does that), but I'd also say Kinect's launch lineup is better from a purely casual perspective.  From the latter point, I'd actually say Kinect comes out favorably to Wii's first full year even... the only real "casual focused" games for Wii launch were really Wii Sports and Raving Rabbids (Japan also got Wii Play and Warioware for launch, but the west didn't until 2007).  Wii had a few licensed kids games too though (Spongebob, Cars, Open Season, Barnyard) which could fall under a casual banner, though not really all-ages like we've come to expect from modern casual games.

So you think the fact that the 360 is enjoying its best holiday ever is a total coincidence which has little to nothing to do with Kinect? December YoY sales are up by something like 75% for a console which has been around for five full years already! Halo Reach is not responsible for that.

I agree with the general consensus of the thread. After two years of pushing the envelope, Nintendo got cold feet, failed to follow through, and started to focus on core and retro gamers. Microsoft has seized the opportunity and executed really well to scoop up some of its own expanded audience. Now we'll see if  Microsoft has the skill and the fortitude to follow through.

The company behind Kinect's technology actually went to Nintendo first, and they declined it.  No doubt Nintendo has something else in works, possibly biofeedback based like the Vitality Sensor indicated, but I don't think we'll see it until Wii 2.   They can ride Wii out as is imo.

Wii 2 might come with a camera too though, Nintendo seems pretty interested in AR gaming going by 3DS...

They are making games that people buy Wiis for, hence this is why they had another stellar holiday season that topped both Kinect and Move. 

And don't worry, they will have more games for next year that take advantage of WM , starting with Zelda.

This year first "Wii is Dooomed" thread?

@rolstoppable  tumble, beat sketchers, eyepet, sports champions, echochrome 2, those are games of the top of my head that cound NOT be done with Wiimote alone. THat nots my point anyway, my point is the neglect of WM while the MOve is getting alot of support. Im comparine two periphirals so I think its a fair comparison. YOu cant even blame 3rd parties too much on this, Ninty have made 3 Motion* games to date in a year and a half, that is pathetic no matter what spin anyone tries to put on it. Sony has at least 10 out in the wild in just 5 months

Yeah, yet it is the 23th thread on bragging Kinect's sucess.