Immortal said:
You must be reading it wrong or something; no one is trying to make it sound as if kids are becoming serial killers (not in this thread, at the very least). I, for one, am not saying that videogames lead to violence at all - they just desensitize them. Earlier, a teenager would cry at knowing someone who dies, now, they'd be used to it and would barely be able to sympathize. That's what I dislike about violent games, not it turning kids into time bombs. If you wanna argue against those who think that video games make kids evil and that HD consoles are made by the Devil, then I ask you to argue against them. I'm not arguing that at all. Oh, and sure, let's blame the parents. I don't disagree with that, but what difference will it make? Most of them whose children are getting ahold of this stuff simply don't care. I agree that it would be better if those parents would fix this, but they won't, and in that case, I feel that something should still be done about that which is having a negative effect on society (this in no way means boycotting the products, though). 1) He's not saying that, as far as I can tell. He says they are prevalent, that there are more of them and that they are more popular/successful on those consoles. 2) I admit I don't have any studies on this, but I'm pretty sure that the rate of kids getting inappropriate material for their age is higher on PS3/360 than it is on DVD players/PCs/Phones. 3) Well, considering how often kids do get this stuff, parents are either irresponsible or don't care. Either way, this is hurting society and, if the parents don't do anything about it, I really think some measures need to be taken. 4) Where does he say that every single game on HD is violent and no Wii game is? I only skimmed through the OP, but I didn't get that impression at all. He came off as saying "most" and "few" to me. 5) I'm not quite sure where you're getting this. Obviously, I dislike the HD consoles so I'm not gonna be singing jolly songs about them all the time, but I have given credit where credit is due. I seem to recall saying Kinect is selling well a lot of times, albeit most of the time, I was expressing this before posting a criticism of some sort. Almost every time when I've said something bad about a HD product, I've always said "it's selling well" at some point in the post because usually it is, but fans are trying to insinuate ridiculous things such as "lolol this is WAY ahead of expectations" or "UNDERTRACK!!!!". By the way, the reason I don't like the HD consoles is because I do not enjoy or appreciate their software, not this. If this were the sole reason I do not enjoy them, I would absolutely detest PC. And, I'm sorry - I don't mean to be rude at all - but you seem far more personally affected by this than me. You gave me a huge paragraph and 5 separate points to respond to two small paragraphs. You're even getting me heated up, :P. This is the first ":P" or "xD" I used to lighten the tone of the post, and I generally make them like once per sentence, :O. Even if you're getting tired of these arguments, you really don't need to vent your anger regarding similar arguments towards one. You're making too many stereotypes, I think. Oh, and this post may have a huge amount of factual inaccuracies, hypocrisies, biased content and annoying rubbish in general. Don't blame me, :P, I was bored so I started writing this post then I got tired halfway through and just started writing whatever I felt like, :D. |
I guess we're not too different after all. The OP is miles ahead of us both in fervor though.
I must say that I'm opposed to the whole idea of "parents are slacking, the world must take measures", it should be the other way around, parents need to prepare their kids for the world and not have them grow up in a cushioned room with rainbows and singalong.
In essence, I don't think our standpoints are that different and those parts that are may be largely attributed to the fact that we come from two different cultures and are of different age. I for one enjoy a variety of games but have never been drawn to the most violent ones, some seem to want to shock more than provide actual basis for gameplay (Manhunt is a perfect example) and a lot of these games have a weak substance (or none at all). My favourite games are racers, platformers, RPG's, strategy (both realtime and turn-based) and some shooters (though the new breed of shooters with more focus on heavy action really doesn't appeal to me).
I apologize if I came out all angry and condescending, my issue is with the OP (and his obvious agenda when viewing his post history) and what appears to be a very skewed view on the world of entertainment first and foremost. It gets personal for me when people use religion to ban or outlaw products, artists, events or social phenomenon, its social gagging and its unnatural for me to rebuke standardized parts of society and impose censorship on your childrens life.
Anyway, I have nothing personal against you as a poster allthough we don't see eye to eye on a few things, just thought you should know that.
PS: Good response, too few take their time to answer properly for themselves and get all wound up and off-point.
