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Carl on 17 November 2010
TheSource said:

I just checked, that is the highest week two of November value for hardware Wii has had in Japan. Wii is actually up by 60% over this week of 2009 in Japan. Bodes well, as the Red Wii came out Nov 11, and so it should hold for at least one more week at a good level. Then Mario Sports Mix comes during the last week of November, which is when seasonality begins to lift all hardware in Japan. Nintendo has timed this fairly well.

Also, YTD Jan 3 - Nov 14 for Wii in 2010: 1.14m

Same Period of 2009 for Wii: 1.09m

Wii is still up by 50,000. If DKC pushes about half the amount of hw as NSMB Wii (60k in launch week), figures may end up close to 2009 yet (about 2m).

For PS3 YTD Jan 3- Nov 14 is: 1.19m

Same time in 2009: 1.13m

PS3 still up by 60,000 (probably down to 50k for the 11/21 week). No Final Fantasy XIII push though (probably 100k of the 244k FFXIII week) - GT5 week will put PS3 up maybe 60,000-75,000 over its late 2009 level with an 80k push, so PS3 may be close to its figures last year also (1.8m) in the end.

So despite all the doom and gloom about Wii sales this year in Japan... It's not really doing bad, it's just that the PS3 is doing tremendously well?



                            

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TheSource on 17 November 2010

No they're both doing poorly in Japan. Selling 2m consoles in Japan is the equivalent of selling 4m in the USA. They're not terrible numbers, but they're fairly average numbers. The difference is Wii is doing average numbers in Japan after having an excellent year (4m) and a good year (2.8m).

For me, Japan figures, when you look at history are essentially:

4m - A to A (NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, GB, GBA, DS all got here)

3.2m - 4m B to A-

2.4m - 3.2m  B- to B

1.6m - 2.4m  C- to C

0.8m - 1.6m D- to D

0m - 0.8m - F

The PS3 peak is in the C range (2.3m) to date, the Wii peak about B . That is why publishers have supported portables in Japan - DS did 7m (!!) two years in a row, and PSP has had a B year or two, while the consoles have sold poorly against historical levels.



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kopstudent89 on 18 November 2010

You could argue that for a second place console, the PS3 is doing well. But the PSP, which is second place in the handheld department, is beating the wii on a weekly basis...

I have to say that consoles this gen have been a major disappointment. Imo it's because the split in 3rd party support (DQ and MH for Wii, FF, MGS  and the yakuzas and mousou's for PS3). Also the huge decline in many games like PES, mousou, samurai warriors, tales, power pro baseball, etc....  helped in this decline

Historically the dominating console always had everything in japan. This time it was kinda like the Wii was leading without really having any support. And i guess the PS3 support was a bit too late for the PS3 to really get to PS2-like numbers. Even for all the PS3 support, i dont think it can be compared to what the PS2 had, even marginally... Handhelds have stolen the thunder in Japan! 3DS will probably see this domination continue



saicho on 18 November 2010
Carl2291 said:
TheSource said:

I just checked, that is the highest week two of November value for hardware Wii has had in Japan. Wii is actually up by 60% over this week of 2009 in Japan. Bodes well, as the Red Wii came out Nov 11, and so it should hold for at least one more week at a good level. Then Mario Sports Mix comes during the last week of November, which is when seasonality begins to lift all hardware in Japan. Nintendo has timed this fairly well.

Also, YTD Jan 3 - Nov 14 for Wii in 2010: 1.14m

Same Period of 2009 for Wii: 1.09m

Wii is still up by 50,000. If DKC pushes about half the amount of hw as NSMB Wii (60k in launch week), figures may end up close to 2009 yet (about 2m).

For PS3 YTD Jan 3- Nov 14 is: 1.19m

Same time in 2009: 1.13m

PS3 still up by 60,000 (probably down to 50k for the 11/21 week). No Final Fantasy XIII push though (probably 100k of the 244k FFXIII week) - GT5 week will put PS3 up maybe 60,000-75,000 over its late 2009 level with an 80k push, so PS3 may be close to its figures last year also (1.8m) in the end.

So despite all the doom and gloom about Wii sales this year in Japan... It's not really doing bad, it's just that the PS3 is doing tremendously well?

Wii is doing very bad comparing to previous years. PS3 is doing very well comparing to previous years. However, it's yet to see if a very good PS3 year can outsell a very bad Wii year in Japan. (It didn't happen last year)



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Bruno Muñoz on 20 November 2010

Full Top 50

 

Media Create November 8-14

01. / 00. [PSP] Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (Square Enix) - 176.153 / NEW
02. / 00. [PS3] Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 (Bandai Namco) - 47.610 / NEW
03. / 02. [WII] Super Mario Collection: Special Pack (Nintendo) - 43.621 / 527.710 (-23%)
04. / 03. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) - 42.279 / 4.410.996 (-25%)
05. / 00. [NDS] Magician’s Quest: The Merchant’s Store of Sorcery (Konami) - 40.208 / NEW
06. / 01. [PSP] God Eater: Burst (Bandai Namco) - 31.372 / 356.356 (-49%)
07. / 04. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 30.353 / 301.420 (-46%)
08. / 09. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 17.471 / 1.191.223 (-2%)
09. / 00. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Remote Plus) (Nintendo) - 14.438 / NEW
10. / 08. [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) - 13.896 / 187.778 (-33%)
11. / 00. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Narikiri Challenge (Bandai Namco) - 10.517 / NEW
12. / 06. [NDS] Radiant Historia (Atlus Co.) - 10.018 / 42.825 (-69%)
13. / 00. [PSP] God of War: Ghost of Sparta (SCE) - 9.406 / NEW
14. / 05. [PS3] Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks) - 7.133 / 44.382 (-81%)
15. / 00. [PSP] Renai Banchou: Inochi Meishi, Koiseyo Otome! Love is Power!!! (Idea Factory) - 6.397 / NEW
16. / 00. [360] Forza Motorsport 3: Ultimate Edition (Microsoft Game Studios) - 5.684 / NEW
17. / 13. [NDS] Kingdom Hearts Re:coded (Square Enix) - 5.391 / 162.864 (-15%)
18. / 17. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 5.244 / 2.111.749 ( 4%)
19. / 11. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm 2 (Bandai Namco) - 5.050 / 96.382 (-41%)
20. / 00. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition [PlayStation 3 the Best] (Capcom) - 5.035 / NEW

21. / 00. [PS3] Mafia II (Take-Two Interactive)
22. / 25. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
23. / 18. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
24. / 10. [NDS] Golden Sun: Dark Dawn (Nintendo)
25. / 16. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best Reprint] (Capcom)
26. / 20. [PS3] Beat Sketch! (SCE)
27. / 23. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco)
28. / 22. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
29. / 00. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors Online: Souten Ranbu (Koei Tecmo)
30. / 26. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
31. / 35. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (Konami)
32. / 31. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
33. / 29. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo)
34. / 12. [NDS] Solatorobo: Sore kara Coda e (Bandai Namco)
35. / 21. [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Take-Two Interactive)
36. / 32. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco)
37. / 15. [PSP] Lord of Arcana (Square Enix)
38. / 00. [360] Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 (Bandai Namco) - 3.000 / NEW
39. / 30. [PS3] Sports Champions (SCE)
40. / 19. [PS3] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts)
41. / 14. [PS3] Vanquish (Sega)
42. / 00. [NDS] Puyo Puyo 7 [Special Price] (Sega)
43. / 24. [NDS] Do-Konjou Shougakussei: Bon Bita - Hadaka no Choujou Ketsusen!! Bita Vs. Dokuro Dei! (Bandai Namco)
44. / 27. [PSP] Dream Club Portable (D3 Publisher)
45. / 07. [360] Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
46. / 41. [PS3] Gekijouban Macross F: Itsuwarino Utahime - Hybrid Pack (Bandai Namco)
47. / 00. [NDS] Koede Asobu: Heart Catch PreCure (Toei Animation)
48. / 33. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village (Capcom)
49. / 00. [NDS] Magician's Quest: Mysterious Times [Best Selection] (Konami)
50. / 39. [PSP] Eiyuu Densetsu: Zero no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 828.892 / 49.384.069 ( 12 %)


NDS - 16
PS3 - 13
PSP - 10
WII - 8
360 - 3
PS2 - 0

 

 



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Bruno Muñoz on 20 November 2010

02. / 00. [PS3] Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 (Bandai Namco) - 47.610 / NEW

38. / 00. [360] Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 (Bandai Namco) - 3.000 / NEW

lol, so much for Namco stop spamming Dragon Flop Ball titles, It's been announced a new one for NDS.

15. / 00. [PSP] Renai Banchou: Inochi Meishi, Koiseyo Otome! Love is Power!!! (Idea Factory) - 6.397 / NEW

It's a miracle that this shitty shovelware company is still in business.

24. / 10. [NDS] Golden Sun: Dark Dawn (Nintendo)

Already sub 5k with another 70% drop on its third week, I can't believe how hard it tanked.

29. / 00. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors Online: Souten Ranbu (Koei Tecmo) 

Nice try Koei ...