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Mr Puggsly on 05 November 2010
Doobie_wop said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Pyramid12 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Boutros said:

I don't think Nintendo or Sony will follow the movement. And besides, mind control is just around the corner!

I think Nintendo is putting billions into mind control. That little finger thing is step one. Next it'll probably go through the nose into the brain.

Sony on the other hand is probably already cloning Kinect technology for their next PS Eye device.


Sony is "cloning" a "clone" of eye toy? w8 what????

Yes, the Kinect is simple a webcam.

MS looked at the Eyetoy and said we gotta clone this webcam and that's how Kinect was born.

The Kinect is a camera used to play games. The Eye toy is also a camera used to play games. The tech in them are different, but the end user result is the same, which is that you move and whatever is on the screen reacts. It's like the Wii mote and Move, both have different tech in them, but the Move obviously copied it's method from the Wiimote. The same thing applies to the Eye Toy and the Kinect. Microsoft may not have directly looked at the Eye Toy when designing the Kinect, but it also doesn't mean that they aren't rehashing an old idea.

OT: No.

No, the Kinect is two cameras and some wacky infared technology used to play games. The Eyetoy is basically a webcam used to play games. The end result is not same. Otherwise MS would have justkept using the Live Vision device.

Its kinda like comparing the NES and 360 gamepad. One is capable of far more than the other.



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arcane_chaos on 05 November 2010

no...just no....

but thanks for the laugh!!!



Doobie_wop on 05 November 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Doobie_wop said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Pyramid12 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Boutros said:

I don't think Nintendo or Sony will follow the movement. And besides, mind control is just around the corner!

I think Nintendo is putting billions into mind control. That little finger thing is step one. Next it'll probably go through the nose into the brain.

Sony on the other hand is probably already cloning Kinect technology for their next PS Eye device.


Sony is "cloning" a "clone" of eye toy? w8 what????

Yes, the Kinect is simple a webcam.

MS looked at the Eyetoy and said we gotta clone this webcam and that's how Kinect was born.

The Kinect is a camera used to play games. The Eye toy is also a camera used to play games. The tech in them are different, but the end user result is the same, which is that you move and whatever is on the screen reacts. It's like the Wii mote and Move, both have different tech in them, but the Move obviously copied it's method from the Wiimote. The same thing applies to the Eye Toy and the Kinect. Microsoft may not have directly looked at the Eye Toy when designing the Kinect, but it also doesn't mean that they aren't rehashing an old idea.

OT: No.

No, the Kinect is two cameras and some wacky infared technology used to play games. The Eyetoy is basically a webcam used to play games. The end result is not same. Otherwise MS would have justkept using the Live Vision device.

Its kinda like comparing the NES and 360 gamepad. One is capable of far more than the other.

The end result is the same. To play this random game, I have to jump around, wave my arms or kick my legs to interact. Both of them use gesture recognition technology and also allows players to interact with games using motion, colour detection and also sound, through their built-in microphones. One of them does it much better than the other, it doesn't stop them from being very similar devices.

The 360 gamepad is around because of the NES gamepad. The NES controller released with a D-Pad, a select and start button in the middle and two action buttons. The 360 gamepad uses all those buttons, but it uses different tech and it's an advancement, that doesn't mean it's an original concept though. I'm just saying that credit should be given to the ones who deserve it, Microsoft are not the first game company to use a camera to play games, the credit all goes to SEGA.



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Mr Puggsly on 05 November 2010
Doobie_wop said:

The end result is the same. To play this random game, I have to jump around, wave my arms or kick my legs to interact. Both of them use gesture recognition technology and also allows players to interact with games using motion, colour detection and also sound, through their built-in microphones. One of them does it much better than the other, it doesn't stop them from being very similar devices.

The 360 gamepad is around because of the NES gamepad. The NES controller released with a D-Pad, a select and start button in the middle and two action buttons. The 360 gamepad uses all those buttons, but it uses different tech and it's an advancement, that doesn't mean it's an original concept though. I'm just saying that credit should be given to the ones who deserve it, Microsoft are not the first game company to use a camera to play games, the credit all goes to SEGA.

I think you're over simplifying how it works and how it tracks.

The point is its dumb to call the Kinect an Eyetoy clone. The Eyetoy was just a webcam.

You can argue about software, but hardware is a completely different story.



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Doobie_wop on 05 November 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Doobie_wop said:

The end result is the same. To play this random game, I have to jump around, wave my arms or kick my legs to interact. Both of them use gesture recognition technology and also allows players to interact with games using motion, colour detection and also sound, through their built-in microphones. One of them does it much better than the other, it doesn't stop them from being very similar devices.

The 360 gamepad is around because of the NES gamepad. The NES controller released with a D-Pad, a select and start button in the middle and two action buttons. The 360 gamepad uses all those buttons, but it uses different tech and it's an advancement, that doesn't mean it's an original concept though. I'm just saying that credit should be given to the ones who deserve it, Microsoft are not the first game company to use a camera to play games, the credit all goes to SEGA.

I think you're over simplifying how it works and how it tracks.

The point is its dumb to call the Kinect an Eyetoy clone. The Eyetoy was just a webcam.

You can argue about software, but hardware is a completely different story.

You keep saying the Eye Toy is just a webcam, but it plays games. It's actually a successful camera based gaming peripheral that was offering gaming experiences similar to what Kinect is offering today. Those experiences may be less advanced, but so is the PS1 compared to the PS3, both are designed completely differently, but the end result is the same, which is that a game is playing on your TV.

They both offer gesture based recognition, sound detection, and colour detection technology, a few extra advancements do not vastly change the category they fall under, which is camera based motion controls. You can say whatever you want, but Kinect isn't an innovation, it isn't the first of it's kind and (as you agreed earlier) it isn't a significant event in gaming history. 



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hallowedbeeddie on 05 November 2010

no



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baggy on 05 November 2010

No its not...



SnesTea on 05 November 2010
toastboy44562 said:

This is the start of the future I believe. all games eventually will be controlled with your body...kinect is the first step there! today is perhaps the biggest day in the videogame industry ever...go 360!

Wii called. It wants to remind you of the past 4 years of motion control.



Thulak on 05 November 2010

3D is the next step, motion gaming was ages ago when Nintendo got the upperhand.