To be honest I'm still shocked at this massive sales adjustment, for a couple legitamate reasons.

1. Did Move really push that many consoles? Really? Move? Does that mean Kinect will do the same for 360? Really? Is motion gaming really that atttractive? Really? Seriously? A Wand with a glowing ball on the end and no good supporting games (except RE5).

2. This is a massive sales adjustment, and Sony has seen 3 sales adjustments in the last couple months. I'm sure the PS3 is outselling the 360, but did VGCharts honestly miss 1 million console sales? I understand some data is from smaller, more rural middle east and african regions, but Move has only sold 500 units, it's hard to beleive that it's responsible for a 60-100k weekly sales jump.

So I'm going to give it a couple weeks and wait for Kinect data to come in. If Kinect also posts ridiculous boosts in sales, then sadly, I guess this Move boost is real. If it doesn't, then I would question the reliability of this data.

I mean in January 2010 PS3 was ahead of 360 in EMEAA, then it didn't surpass the 360 in EMEAA for another 4 months, then recently 360 came within 45k of surpassing PS3 in EMEAA, and then now it's all of a sudden over 1 million sales behind?? Something is up, but PS3 probably did have a strong fall.

To be honest, I still don't see the PS3 meeting that 15 million fisical year goal. This data may be smudged by Sony to hold reputation (e.g. 15 million shipped, 12 million sold).

I and many other, including Vgchartz, have been questioning Sony's recent 3.5 number when Europe, Japan, and NPD sales from reputable sources simply dont support it.

Well, I found this post on another forum. Very enlightening. There doesnt seem to be any quote function in this boards software in new posts, which is utterly riduculous, so I cant quote it, but here

"Sony usually overstock before Christmas

Past two years:"

What that shows is that Sony historically ships much more relatively in calender quarter 3, than Q4, compared to 360.

If this holds up you will basically expect a very strong Q4 for 360, probably ahead of PS3, in ship numbers. For example, if it holds to the pattern of 2009, 360 will be up  ~150% in Q4, =2.5X2.8=7.0. PS3 if it is up ~100%, will be 2X3.5=7.0. If it conforms more to the pattern of 2008, then it will be even better for 360, etc. I also briefly checked 2007, and the pattern holds there too. I left Wii out of this mostly because it doesnt concern me (and I'm just copying a post from another board anyway), I dont know if Nintendo follows Sony's pattern or Microsoft's. But we can clearly see an apparant pattern. Perhaps it even has something to do with Sony's larger share in Europe, maybe it takes longer to ship hardware to Europe.

This is something I never would have noticed on my own.

I'm sure some angry PS3 fans will see sour grapes here, but whatever, they have no right to do that when recorded sales prove them almost unequivacally wrong regarding Sony's recent PS3 hardware ship. I think the Q4 numbers may surprise some people if this holds validity. As far as I'm concerned it's pretty much Sony's last chance to convince me their ship numbers aren't bogus...

Hmm, what data is that? Hey, check this chart out

Huh, so that's NPD where 360 beat PS3 by quite a lot, Media Creat where PS3 beat 360 of course, but when you combine NPD and Media Creat PS3 is still significantly behind...so we must go to Europe, Hmm, looks like theyre about even! Now what?

I'm afraid I'm not the one avoiding reality here.

I'm not saying retailers are buying PS3's they dont want. There's a lot of lag time, shipping by boat from China to Europe or the USA alone takes 8 weeks I've heard.

For whatever reason it seems historically, Sony starts shipping their holiday stock earlier than MS, some of it in the third quarter. So historically, you end up with a high PS3 number relative to the 4th Q. As the OP laid out.

To be honest I'm still shocked at this massive sales adjustment, for a couple legitamate reasons.

1. Did Move really push that many consoles? Really? Move? Does that mean Kinect will do the same for 360? Really? Is motion gaming really that atttractive? Really? Seriously? A Wand with a glowing ball on the end and no good supporting games (except RE5).

2. This is a massive sales adjustment, and Sony has seen 3 sales adjustments in the last couple months. I'm sure the PS3 is outselling the 360, but did VGCharts honestly miss 1 million console sales? I understand some data is from smaller, more rural middle east and african regions, but Move has only sold 500 units, it's hard to beleive that it's responsible for a 60-100k weekly sales jump.

So I'm going to give it a couple weeks and wait for Kinect data to come in. If Kinect also posts ridiculous boosts in sales, then sadly, I guess this Move boost is real. If it doesn't, then I would question the reliability of this data.

I mean in January 2010 PS3 was ahead of 360 in EMEAA, then it didn't surpass the 360 in EMEAA for another 4 months, then recently 360 came within 45k of surpassing PS3 in EMEAA, and then now it's all of a sudden over 1 million sales behind?? Something is up, but PS3 probably did have a strong fall.

To be honest, I still don't see the PS3 meeting that 15 million fisical year goal. This data may be smudged by Sony to hold reputation (e.g. 15 million shipped, 12 million sold).

I have only one thing to say : buy a PS3 and be a much happier person!