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NYANKS said:
Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

They wouldn't NEED them if third parties hadn't decimated the Wii.  This is a secondary issue stemming from the obvious problem.

Third parties killed 1/10th of all wiis?



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Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

You committed a felony in your post. You compared apples to oranges.  Let me enlighten you. New Super Mario Bros. is a side scrolling platformer. Online  gameplay is not needed in that game.Some games are just more fun with others in the room playing with you. Not all games need to Online capable to be enjoyed.

Now let's compare apples to apples. NBA Jam is a sports game and so is Super Mario Strikers Charged and it has online. Mario Sports Mix will have online play as well. Madden NFL 09 , 10 and 11 for the Wii have online gameplay.  Why does NBA Jam not follow suit? This is where you need to question EA and ask them why NBA Jam does not have online when most Wii sports games do.

Secondly, EA decided to develop NBA Jam for the HD consoles and included online gameplay. This my friend is the second reason why Wii owners are up in arms. The first reason was mentioned in the preceding paragraph.

 

PS2 ports would have Wii owners crying foul and I would be one of them. The Wii is a new console and gamers deserve to have new games developed for it. If Nintendo is developing new games for their console then other developers should do the same. Why pay for a Wii when you can purchase a ps2 cheaper and it's games which are much cheaper than Wii games. If games like GTA, Kingdom Hearts, and Kindom Hearts 2 are what you want to play.



If Nintendo is successful at the moment, it’s because they are good, and I cannot blame them for that. What we should do is try to be just as good.----Laurent Benadiba

 

Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

Apples and oranges. Competitive online multiplayer is almost a given, and EA has a laundry list of reasons why they should have done it (not the least being that they managed it somehow for the other versions), whereas the mechanics of NSMBWii were designed such that online co-op wouldn't really have helped, unless the game were redesigned utterly with online in mind

And the ports of PS2 games that were high profile PS2 games, generally performed as they should have performed. Okami was comparable, certainly, and Bully did well enough.

Or we could point out the fact that Nintendo fans are not a hive mind. Other M proved that neatly enough.



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patjuan32 said:
Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

You committed a felony in your post. You compared apples to oranges.  Let me enlighten you. New Super Mario Bros. is a side scrolling platformer. Online  gameplay is not needed in that game.Some games are just more fun with others in the room playing with you. Not all games need to Online capable to be enjoyed.

Now let's compare apples to apples. NBA Jam is a sports game and so is Super Mario Strikers Charged and it has online. Mario Sports Mix will have online play as well. Madden NFL 09 , 10 and 11 for the Wii have online gameplay.  Why does NBA Jam not follow suit? This is where you need to question EA and ask them why NBA Jam does not have online when most Wii sports games do.

Secondly, EA decided to develop NBA Jam for the HD consoles and included online gameplay. This my friend is the second reason why Wii owners are up in arms. The first reason was mentioned in the preceding paragraph.

 

PS2 ports would have Wii owners crying foul and I would be one of them. The Wii is a new console and gamers deserve to have new games developed for it. If Nintendo is developing new games for their console then other developers should do the same. Why pay for a Wii when you can purchase a ps2 cheaper and it's games which are much cheaper than Wii games. If games like GTA, Kingdom Hearts, and Kindom Hearts 2 are what you want to play.


YEA! and NBA Jam is one of those games! remeber NBA jam out on the SNES and it was a great party game...without the online, maybe EA was just taking the approach that nintendo took with NSMBW.In regards to online gameplay for HD..its just needed. Online sales HD games and unfortunately HD gamers will most likely dock games that dont have it when they fill it should and would help buy a games just because it had it...that doesnt apply to Wii though because online isnt really a big feature for the console and like stated apparently no cares for it.



leatherhat said:
NYANKS said:
Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

They wouldn't NEED them if third parties hadn't decimated the Wii.  This is a secondary issue stemming from the obvious problem.

Third parties killed 1/10th of all wiis?

I hope this is sarcasm. lolz



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Xxain said:
patjuan32 said:
Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

You committed a felony in your post. You compared apples to oranges.  Let me enlighten you. New Super Mario Bros. is a side scrolling platformer. Online  gameplay is not needed in that game.Some games are just more fun with others in the room playing with you. Not all games need to Online capable to be enjoyed.

Now let's compare apples to apples. NBA Jam is a sports game and so is Super Mario Strikers Charged and it has online. Mario Sports Mix will have online play as well. Madden NFL 09 , 10 and 11 for the Wii have online gameplay.  Why does NBA Jam not follow suit? This is where you need to question EA and ask them why NBA Jam does not have online when most Wii sports games do.

Secondly, EA decided to develop NBA Jam for the HD consoles and included online gameplay. This my friend is the second reason why Wii owners are up in arms. The first reason was mentioned in the preceding paragraph.

 

PS2 ports would have Wii owners crying foul and I would be one of them. The Wii is a new console and gamers deserve to have new games developed for it. If Nintendo is developing new games for their console then other developers should do the same. Why pay for a Wii when you can purchase a ps2 cheaper and it's games which are much cheaper than Wii games. If games like GTA, Kingdom Hearts, and Kindom Hearts 2 are what you want to play.


YEA! and NBA Jam is one of those games! remeber NBA jam out on the SNES and it was a great party game...without the online, maybe EA was just taking the approach that nintendo took with NSMBW.In regards to online gameplay for HD..its just needed. Online sales HD games and unfortunately HD gamers will most likely dock games that dont have it when they fill it should and would help buy a games just because it had it...that doesnt apply to Wii though because online isnt really a big feature for the console and like stated apparently no cares for it.

That's true to a degree but it's rubbish to say no one cares for it.   LOTS of Wii owners use online.  GH, RB, nearly every sports titles, FPSs, fighters, brawlers, etc. all have online on Wii.  Despite crap talk to the contrary (and ignoring SSBB which admittedly has issues) they work great too.   Personally I have never agreed with the people saying NSMBW doesn't need online.  I have always felt it absolutely should have had it, and it devalued the game to me to not have it.   Without question I'd have gotten more use out of the game, a LOT more, if it was online.    Kirby:EY - fine, that one I don't care about being online.  NSMBW which everyone and their Aunt Benice owns, YES I want online.  Digressing; NBA Jam is an arcade sports title.  It's almost unheard of for a competitive Sports title to not have online, even on Wii.  Especially when the HD version has it.   I can't think on any other multiplatform game (other than the late port of RB) that offered online on some systems but not Wii.   It's a lousy precident and a total slap in the face to Wii owners.



 

I think they missed the oportunity with SOME games, I didn't want the console to be flooded with PS2 ports, but a few "collections" would had been nice.

I can see myself buying a Kindom Hearts collection (1, 2 and chain of memories) with 480p and widescreen support, or a Devil May Cry Compilation, or something along those lines, a few selected good PS2 or Xbox games as a way to gain some money and taste the market for those franchises.

Also most of the people complained about the simultaneous release of some games for PS2 and Wii, because the leading developing plataform was the PS2 so they were not taking advantage of the power capabilities or the controls of the Wii, I didn't hear anyone complaining about Silent Hill: Shattered Memories precisely because the leading plataform was the Wii and it was a good game. (a Silent Hill compilation is also a good idea).



NYANKS said:
leatherhat said:
NYANKS said:
Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

They wouldn't NEED them if third parties hadn't decimated the Wii.  This is a secondary issue stemming from the obvious problem.

Third parties killed 1/10th of all wiis?

I hope this is sarcasm. lolz

What else would you get from me



ǝןdɯıs ʇı dǝǝʞ oʇ ǝʞıן ı ʍouʞ noʎ 

Ask me about being an elitist jerk

Time for hype

leatherhat said:
NYANKS said:
leatherhat said:
NYANKS said:
Xxain said:

This camp kills me:

NSMBW comes with no online, and its has most of net asking why? Wii fans say " we dont care about online"

Now NBA Jam is here with no online.. and waaaaaaaaaaaaabulnece happens

 

back in the day Ports were another source of wabulence for the camp

now somebody is actually asking for ports!?

 

this backtalking list can go on forever almost..but its not needed

 

it seems that the camp doesnt know it wants..or is changing its expectations based on whos name is on the box.

 

I think the answer is the PS2 ports didnt come because the camp claimed they didnt want em

They wouldn't NEED them if third parties hadn't decimated the Wii.  This is a secondary issue stemming from the obvious problem.

Third parties killed 1/10th of all wiis?

I hope this is sarcasm. lolz

What else would you get from me

Chocolate Chip Cookies?



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

I just cannot understand when people say that third parties killed the wii, I mean when the good AAA games come along they DON'T SELL. There are many many examples:

1- No More Heroes 1 & 2

2- MadWorld

3- Red Steel 2

4- Prince of Persia (heard the wii version was really good)

5- Conduit

6- Many Multiplatform titles that simply do not sell on the Wii and sell on the HD consoles.

 

Then there are also additional ports such as the Resident Evil archives games adapted to the Wii-mote which didn't even chart in this site. 

Nintendo games sell very well on the Nintendo platform, no doubt. Mainly because Nintendo software usually means quality and people are just used to that.

I think it is a smart business decision from developers/publishers to stop supporting the Wii with those types of games, because if they do not get a return on their investment, why should they care? To please fanboys? 

So in the end, to me the blame is on the customers who don't pay for AAA games on the Wii and that have forced the devs/publishers to make those tough decisions of stopping support for the platform all along.