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Doobie_wop on 14 October 2010
KungKras said:
Severance said:
KungKras said:

Now I want you to find me one third party game that is like Zelda OoT, one FPS that is like the Metroid Primes, and one game that was like Super Smash Bros before it came out. It's impossible. It seems like Nintendo's games actually stand out from all the standard genre-defined games of third parties and the like doesn't it?

inspirations are not rip offs, don't you know SSB is inspired by this game?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxapXSAijw

Metroid Prime is also not the first FPS ever created btw, or should i say First Person Adventure (since metroid isn't a "shooter" in that sense )

Ok, so Smash Bros does play like that game. But there are still no shooter like Metroid Prime. and there are no Adventure game like the 3D Zeldas.

With most of the Sony first party games I mentioned, there is always a third party game that did almost identical gameplay first. But with Nintnedo's games, usually the only game that has similar gameplay is an earlier Nintendo game in the same series. That was my point and it still stands.

Metroid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEpNx2qde3Q

Mario

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwfF5-Wt6YU

The Legend of Zelda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1s7kexSrHE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcQpec98nCA

Super Smash Bros.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxapXSAijw

Zelda: Ocarina of Time

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_(computer_game)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnocQS1maqg

Motion Controls

http://classicgames.about.com/od/consoleandhandheldgames/p/LeStickProfile.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nUENWpRdSs

Your point is void and you should probably do your research before making such outlandish statements. 

These threads have all turned bad because some people couldn't give up the opportunity to bash a company they don't like, instead of actually providing well thought out arguments as to why Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft should leave.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

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evolution_1ne on 14 October 2010
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
9Chiba said:

Can you name me one game that released before Killzone which has the same gritty atmosphere?

can you name me one gamer that plays games just for atmosphere?


You got to it before me xD

Altohugh my reply was going to be: "So a gritty atmosphere = an original and outstanding game?"

coming from nintendo fans who enjoy games with no story what so ever and pride them selves of the same rehash 2d mario over and over and over
,

lol the irony there is amazing XD

The original point that I was replying to was that Sony made new IPs instead of reusing their IPs like Nintnedo.

I responded by pointing out that even though Sony makes new IPs, there is nothing original about most of said new IPs, and I listed the biggest first party games that Sony had and compared them to 3rd party games in the same genre. (The only truly original IPs they have being LBP and the ICO games)

So I fail to see the irony that you are seeing,

Now I want you to find me one third party game that is like Zelda OoT, one FPS that is like the Metroid Primes, and one game that was like Super Smash Bros before it came out. It's impossible. It seems like Nintendo's games actually stand out from all the standard genre-defined games of third parties and the like doesn't it?

Also, you shouldn't forget how many genres Nintnedo has pioneered. Sony and MS are now making Wii sports clones for example.

Nintnedo hasn't made new IP in a long time, but the IP that they already have does stand out from all other games that the industry makes, unlike MS and Sony's new games, that mostly just takes proven concepts and applies them to already well-defined genres.


yeah, I can see where this one is going......

my suggestion is you actually play the games before you bash them, and judging by your post you haven't played ANY of them, especially killzone 2

Orly? how can you see that I haven't played them? What insight am I supposed to have that you so clearly can see that I don't have?

I only need to see gameplay to see that GoW plays exactly like DMC, and that GT is a racing game. Do you think, after having seen a walkthrough of Ratchet & Clank and stating that it's a basic 3D platformer that that assumption is wrong? Would me playing it suddenly make me realize that it's a survival horror?

My point still stand as strong as ever despite your accustions.

ok dude GOW3 plays nothing like DMC, they're both hack n slash and thats clearly  ALL you know

GT is a simulator, the first on a console, not a racing game -_-

and yes ratchet is a 3d platform, but before call it generic PLAY the damn game dude

typical Nintendo fan every genre Nintendo isn't in is generic and every genre they are in should be exclusive to just them and everything is a knock off, pathetic you guys seriously, and this while having never played the games yourselves......

but whatever dude, you keep playing and loving the same f**king game over and over and I'll sit and suffer threw the endlessly diverse, quality line up, that spans all genres and preferences, and have been doing so from the start.

I realize now my being here was wrong as I'm clearly not a mo- Nintendo fan, I'm leaving now

GT is a realistic-style racing game.

Ratchet & Clank is a standard 3D platformer with guns.

And you are BLIND if you think GoW plays differently from DMC. I have seen my friend play both on his PS2, and the ONLY difference between them is that GoW had QTE's.

Go play your games that copies whatever gameplay is popular at the time and keep telling yourself that those games are SO original.

LOL at the spans all genres and preferences part BTW, all genres, yea right.

name one genre Sony doesn't have a game in
better, name one Sony doesn't have a game and and Nintendo does lol



ameratsu on 14 October 2010
KungKras said:


This.

Especially Sony for symbolic reasons (becasue I would love to see the Sony fans of today feel what it's like to be a Sega fan), and becasue they actually suceeded to drive out another games company using that strategy, which is not cool.

Typical Sega fanboy drivel. Sega is out because they fucked up. I know this incredibly hard to accept but maybe it's time to take down your Sonic shrine, and accept that Sega made some big mistakes in the years leading up to the dreamcast launch that were exasberated by the successful launch of the ps2.



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KungKras on 14 October 2010
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
9Chiba said:

Can you name me one game that released before Killzone which has the same gritty atmosphere?

can you name me one gamer that plays games just for atmosphere?


You got to it before me xD

Altohugh my reply was going to be: "So a gritty atmosphere = an original and outstanding game?"

coming from nintendo fans who enjoy games with no story what so ever and pride them selves of the same rehash 2d mario over and over and over
,

lol the irony there is amazing XD

The original point that I was replying to was that Sony made new IPs instead of reusing their IPs like Nintnedo.

I responded by pointing out that even though Sony makes new IPs, there is nothing original about most of said new IPs, and I listed the biggest first party games that Sony had and compared them to 3rd party games in the same genre. (The only truly original IPs they have being LBP and the ICO games)

So I fail to see the irony that you are seeing,

Now I want you to find me one third party game that is like Zelda OoT, one FPS that is like the Metroid Primes, and one game that was like Super Smash Bros before it came out. It's impossible. It seems like Nintendo's games actually stand out from all the standard genre-defined games of third parties and the like doesn't it?

Also, you shouldn't forget how many genres Nintnedo has pioneered. Sony and MS are now making Wii sports clones for example.

Nintnedo hasn't made new IP in a long time, but the IP that they already have does stand out from all other games that the industry makes, unlike MS and Sony's new games, that mostly just takes proven concepts and applies them to already well-defined genres.


yeah, I can see where this one is going......

my suggestion is you actually play the games before you bash them, and judging by your post you haven't played ANY of them, especially killzone 2

Orly? how can you see that I haven't played them? What insight am I supposed to have that you so clearly can see that I don't have?

I only need to see gameplay to see that GoW plays exactly like DMC, and that GT is a racing game. Do you think, after having seen a walkthrough of Ratchet & Clank and stating that it's a basic 3D platformer that that assumption is wrong? Would me playing it suddenly make me realize that it's a survival horror?

My point still stand as strong as ever despite your accustions.

ok dude GOW3 plays nothing like DMC, they're both hack n slash and thats clearly  ALL you know

GT is a simulator, the first on a console, not a racing game -_-

and yes ratchet is a 3d platform, but before call it generic PLAY the damn game dude

typical Nintendo fan every genre Nintendo isn't in is generic and every genre they are in should be exclusive to just them and everything is a knock off, pathetic you guys seriously, and this while having never played the games yourselves......

but whatever dude, you keep playing and loving the same f**king game over and over and I'll sit and suffer threw the endlessly diverse, quality line up, that spans all genres and preferences, and have been doing so from the start.

I realize now my being here was wrong as I'm clearly not a mo- Nintendo fan, I'm leaving now

GT is a realistic-style racing game.

Ratchet & Clank is a standard 3D platformer with guns.

And you are BLIND if you think GoW plays differently from DMC. I have seen my friend play both on his PS2, and the ONLY difference between them is that GoW had QTE's.

Go play your games that copies whatever gameplay is popular at the time and keep telling yourself that those games are SO original.

LOL at the spans all genres and preferences part BTW, all genres, yea right.

name one genre Sony doesn't have a game in
better, name one Sony doesn't have a game and and Nintendo does lol

2D platformer.

Starfox-style shooter

Whatever animal crossing is.

FPA

As for genres that I like that Sony doesn't have a game in that Nintendo doesn't have either:

MMORPG

Oblivion-style RPG

RTS

Hearts of Iron-style RTS

Other strategy games.

Whatever Minecraft is.

I could name more, but I guess that's a lot more than one.



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KungKras on 14 October 2010
ameratsu said:
KungKras said:


This.

Especially Sony for symbolic reasons (becasue I would love to see the Sony fans of today feel what it's like to be a Sega fan), and becasue they actually suceeded to drive out another games company using that strategy, which is not cool.

Typical Sega fanboy drivel. Sega is out because they fucked up. I know this incredibly hard to accept but maybe it's time to take down your Sonic shrine, and accept that Sega made some big mistakes in the years leading up to the dreamcast launch that were exasberated by the successful launch of the ps2.

If Sony wouldn't have been in the video game industry, third parties would have had to choose between the N64 and the Saturn wich would have meant that Sega would have survived.

Also, Sony did do stuff like paying third parties so that games like Tomb Raider, that were Saturn exclusive went multiplat, and then they made deals so that the sequels became PS1 exclusive, it made things so much worse for Sega. They forced Sega into a war of financial attricion that Sega couldn't possibly win.



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KungKras on 14 October 2010
Doobie_wop said:
KungKras said:
Severance said:
KungKras said:

Now I want you to find me one third party game that is like Zelda OoT, one FPS that is like the Metroid Primes, and one game that was like Super Smash Bros before it came out. It's impossible. It seems like Nintendo's games actually stand out from all the standard genre-defined games of third parties and the like doesn't it?

inspirations are not rip offs, don't you know SSB is inspired by this game?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxapXSAijw

Metroid Prime is also not the first FPS ever created btw, or should i say First Person Adventure (since metroid isn't a "shooter" in that sense )

Ok, so Smash Bros does play like that game. But there are still no shooter like Metroid Prime. and there are no Adventure game like the 3D Zeldas.

With most of the Sony first party games I mentioned, there is always a third party game that did almost identical gameplay first. But with Nintnedo's games, usually the only game that has similar gameplay is an earlier Nintendo game in the same series. That was my point and it still stands.

Metroid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEpNx2qde3Q

Mario

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwfF5-Wt6YU

The Legend of Zelda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1s7kexSrHE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcQpec98nCA

Super Smash Bros.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxapXSAijw

Zelda: Ocarina of Time

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_(computer_game)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnocQS1maqg

Motion Controls

http://classicgames.about.com/od/consoleandhandheldgames/p/LeStickProfile.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nUENWpRdSs

Your point is void and you should probably do your research before making such outlandish statements. 

These threads have all turned bad because some people couldn't give up the opportunity to bash a company they don't like, instead of actually providing well thought out arguments as to why Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft should leave.


Wow, that's an interresting collection of games I didn't know existed.

I'll reply when I have the time to get enough info about them.

In my defence, OP said "don't hold back"



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evolution_1ne on 14 October 2010
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
9Chiba said:

Can you name me one game that released before Killzone which has the same gritty atmosphere?

can you name me one gamer that plays games just for atmosphere?


You got to it before me xD

Altohugh my reply was going to be: "So a gritty atmosphere = an original and outstanding game?"

coming from nintendo fans who enjoy games with no story what so ever and pride them selves of the same rehash 2d mario over and over and over
,

lol the irony there is amazing XD

The original point that I was replying to was that Sony made new IPs instead of reusing their IPs like Nintnedo.

I responded by pointing out that even though Sony makes new IPs, there is nothing original about most of said new IPs, and I listed the biggest first party games that Sony had and compared them to 3rd party games in the same genre. (The only truly original IPs they have being LBP and the ICO games)

So I fail to see the irony that you are seeing,

Now I want you to find me one third party game that is like Zelda OoT, one FPS that is like the Metroid Primes, and one game that was like Super Smash Bros before it came out. It's impossible. It seems like Nintendo's games actually stand out from all the standard genre-defined games of third parties and the like doesn't it?

Also, you shouldn't forget how many genres Nintnedo has pioneered. Sony and MS are now making Wii sports clones for example.

Nintnedo hasn't made new IP in a long time, but the IP that they already have does stand out from all other games that the industry makes, unlike MS and Sony's new games, that mostly just takes proven concepts and applies them to already well-defined genres.


yeah, I can see where this one is going......

my suggestion is you actually play the games before you bash them, and judging by your post you haven't played ANY of them, especially killzone 2

Orly? how can you see that I haven't played them? What insight am I supposed to have that you so clearly can see that I don't have?

I only need to see gameplay to see that GoW plays exactly like DMC, and that GT is a racing game. Do you think, after having seen a walkthrough of Ratchet & Clank and stating that it's a basic 3D platformer that that assumption is wrong? Would me playing it suddenly make me realize that it's a survival horror?

My point still stand as strong as ever despite your accustions.

ok dude GOW3 plays nothing like DMC, they're both hack n slash and thats clearly  ALL you know

GT is a simulator, the first on a console, not a racing game -_-

and yes ratchet is a 3d platform, but before call it generic PLAY the damn game dude

typical Nintendo fan every genre Nintendo isn't in is generic and every genre they are in should be exclusive to just them and everything is a knock off, pathetic you guys seriously, and this while having never played the games yourselves......

but whatever dude, you keep playing and loving the same f**king game over and over and I'll sit and suffer threw the endlessly diverse, quality line up, that spans all genres and preferences, and have been doing so from the start.

I realize now my being here was wrong as I'm clearly not a mo- Nintendo fan, I'm leaving now

GT is a realistic-style racing game.

Ratchet & Clank is a standard 3D platformer with guns.

And you are BLIND if you think GoW plays differently from DMC. I have seen my friend play both on his PS2, and the ONLY difference between them is that GoW had QTE's.

Go play your games that copies whatever gameplay is popular at the time and keep telling yourself that those games are SO original.

LOL at the spans all genres and preferences part BTW, all genres, yea right.

name one genre Sony doesn't have a game in
better, name one Sony doesn't have a game and and Nintendo does lol

2D platformer.

Starfox-style shooter

Whatever animal crossing is.

FPA

As for genres that I like that Sony doesn't have a game in that Nintendo doesn't have either:

MMORPG

Oblivion-style RPG

RTS

Hearts of Iron-style RTS

Other strategy games.

Whatever Minecraft is.

I could name more, but I guess that's a lot more than one.

little big planet= every genre you named

final fantasy 14 not sony but is exclusive console mmorpg

 



KungKras on 14 October 2010
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
evolution_1ne said:
KungKras said:
9Chiba said:

Can you name me one game that released before Killzone which has the same gritty atmosphere?

can you name me one gamer that plays games just for atmosphere?


You got to it before me xD

Altohugh my reply was going to be: "So a gritty atmosphere = an original and outstanding game?"

coming from nintendo fans who enjoy games with no story what so ever and pride them selves of the same rehash 2d mario over and over and over
,

lol the irony there is amazing XD

The original point that I was replying to was that Sony made new IPs instead of reusing their IPs like Nintnedo.

I responded by pointing out that even though Sony makes new IPs, there is nothing original about most of said new IPs, and I listed the biggest first party games that Sony had and compared them to 3rd party games in the same genre. (The only truly original IPs they have being LBP and the ICO games)

So I fail to see the irony that you are seeing,

Now I want you to find me one third party game that is like Zelda OoT, one FPS that is like the Metroid Primes, and one game that was like Super Smash Bros before it came out. It's impossible. It seems like Nintendo's games actually stand out from all the standard genre-defined games of third parties and the like doesn't it?

Also, you shouldn't forget how many genres Nintnedo has pioneered. Sony and MS are now making Wii sports clones for example.

Nintnedo hasn't made new IP in a long time, but the IP that they already have does stand out from all other games that the industry makes, unlike MS and Sony's new games, that mostly just takes proven concepts and applies them to already well-defined genres.


yeah, I can see where this one is going......

my suggestion is you actually play the games before you bash them, and judging by your post you haven't played ANY of them, especially killzone 2

Orly? how can you see that I haven't played them? What insight am I supposed to have that you so clearly can see that I don't have?

I only need to see gameplay to see that GoW plays exactly like DMC, and that GT is a racing game. Do you think, after having seen a walkthrough of Ratchet & Clank and stating that it's a basic 3D platformer that that assumption is wrong? Would me playing it suddenly make me realize that it's a survival horror?

My point still stand as strong as ever despite your accustions.

ok dude GOW3 plays nothing like DMC, they're both hack n slash and thats clearly  ALL you know

GT is a simulator, the first on a console, not a racing game -_-

and yes ratchet is a 3d platform, but before call it generic PLAY the damn game dude

typical Nintendo fan every genre Nintendo isn't in is generic and every genre they are in should be exclusive to just them and everything is a knock off, pathetic you guys seriously, and this while having never played the games yourselves......

but whatever dude, you keep playing and loving the same f**king game over and over and I'll sit and suffer threw the endlessly diverse, quality line up, that spans all genres and preferences, and have been doing so from the start.

I realize now my being here was wrong as I'm clearly not a mo- Nintendo fan, I'm leaving now

GT is a realistic-style racing game.

Ratchet & Clank is a standard 3D platformer with guns.

And you are BLIND if you think GoW plays differently from DMC. I have seen my friend play both on his PS2, and the ONLY difference between them is that GoW had QTE's.

Go play your games that copies whatever gameplay is popular at the time and keep telling yourself that those games are SO original.

LOL at the spans all genres and preferences part BTW, all genres, yea right.

name one genre Sony doesn't have a game in
better, name one Sony doesn't have a game and and Nintendo does lol

2D platformer.

Starfox-style shooter

Whatever animal crossing is.

FPA

As for genres that I like that Sony doesn't have a game in that Nintendo doesn't have either:

MMORPG

Oblivion-style RPG

RTS

Hearts of Iron-style RTS

Other strategy games.

Whatever Minecraft is.

I could name more, but I guess that's a lot more than one.

little big planet= every genre you named

final fantasy 14 not sony but is exclusive console mmorpg

 


ORLY?

Please, tell me how to make Hearts of Iron or Starcraft, or Heroes of Might and Magic in Littlebig planet.

FF14 is an MMORPG, but I was talking about games that are made by Sony... and sadly, Square screwed up that game, even though it has a wonderful artstyle.



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Vectorferret on 14 October 2010

Honestly, no one. I also won't shed a tear if anyone else goes out. Competition is good for everyone, as long as we don't end up with a single consoel generation I am happy.



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xeroxm3 on 14 October 2010

Genres are stupid. Judge games based on their individual merits and faults. It could open your eyes. [runs]