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kitler53 on 12 October 2010
nordlead said:
kitler53 said:

so if i have this right, only MS knows how much MS sold according to NPD, and only Sony knows how much Sony sold according to NPD, and the same for Nintendo. Incorrect, all paying customers see the numbers for everyone.

So unless all three sources decide to release their numbers we won't get a complete (if any) picture of NPDs hardware sales estimate? Correct, legally at least we are hoping each of the big three publish their numbers.

no.

Anyone who pays for NPD numbers knows how many units each system sold and how much eash SKU of software sold. However, the only people who can publish NPD hardware numbers to the general public are the hardware manufacturers themselves.

edits above...do i have it right now?



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huaxiong90 on 12 October 2010
Khuutra said:

Holy freaking Hell, they're getting rid of numbers altogether in their quarterly public reports?

Oh God

Oh God what if NeoGAF sales-age starts using VGChartz

That would be...quite the victory.



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nordlead on 12 October 2010
Seece said:
nordlead said:

yes and no.

Anyone who pays for NPD numbers knows how many units each system sold and how much eash SKU of software sold. However, the only people who can publish NPD hardware numbers to the general public are the hardware manufacturers themselves.

So any website reporting those numbers isn't really allowed to do so?

If Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft publishers their numbers to the general public, a website is free to repeat the information.

If a website pays for NPD numbers, they are not allowed to publish Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft numbers unless Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft put them out in a press release first. It has been this way for a while, except NPD published some numbers to the public which sort of made this rule pointless.

This is how it worked the last time NPD pulled their public press release and I'm assuming it is working the same way now.




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kitler53 on 12 October 2010
Seece said:
kitler53 said:

so if i have this right, only MS knows how much MS sold according to NPD, and only Sony knows how much Sony sold according to NPD, and the same for Nintendo.  So unless all three sources decide to release their numbers we won't get a complete (if any) picture of NPDs hardware sales estimate?

Expect the company with those most sales in any given month reveal, and the one with the lowest to not.


that's kind of what i'm afraid of.  just trying to make sure i have my facts straight before i freaking out. xD



nordlead on 12 October 2010
kitler53 said:
nordlead said:
kitler53 said:

so if i have this right, only MS knows how much MS sold according to NPD, and only Sony knows how much Sony sold according to NPD, and the same for Nintendo. Incorrect, all paying customers see the numbers for everyone.

So unless all three sources decide to release their numbers we won't get a complete (if any) picture of NPDs hardware sales estimate? Correct, legally at least we are hoping each of the big three publish their numbers.

no.

Anyone who pays for NPD numbers knows how many units each system sold and how much eash SKU of software sold. However, the only people who can publish NPD hardware numbers to the general public are the hardware manufacturers themselves.

edits above...do i have it right now?

Yes.




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Khuutra on 12 October 2010
Beuli2 said:
Khuutra said:

Holy freaking Hell, they're getting rid of numbers altogether in their quarterly public reports?

Oh God

Oh God what if NeoGAF sales-age starts using VGChartz

Things will happen. Bad things. Maybe this little network will be flooded with neogaf users, meaning the ragnarock for VGChartz :(

NeoGAF users are generally nice people



viStaR on 12 October 2010

NPD cant count Xbox numbers anymore... they are way too high.



kitler53 on 12 October 2010
nordlead said:
kitler53 said:
nordlead said:
kitler53 said:

so if i have this right, only MS knows how much MS sold according to NPD, and only Sony knows how much Sony sold according to NPD, and the same for Nintendo. Incorrect, all paying customers see the numbers for everyone.

So unless all three sources decide to release their numbers we won't get a complete (if any) picture of NPDs hardware sales estimate? Correct, legally at least we are hoping each of the big three publish their numbers.

no.

Anyone who pays for NPD numbers knows how many units each system sold and how much eash SKU of software sold. However, the only people who can publish NPD hardware numbers to the general public are the hardware manufacturers themselves.

edits above...do i have it right now?

Yes.

NOOOOOOO,..i'm going to miss the monthly NPD comparision meltdown thread. :(



Seece on 12 October 2010
nordlead said:
Seece said:
nordlead said:

yes and no.

Anyone who pays for NPD numbers knows how many units each system sold and how much eash SKU of software sold. However, the only people who can publish NPD hardware numbers to the general public are the hardware manufacturers themselves.

So any website reporting those numbers isn't really allowed to do so?

If Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft publishers their numbers to the general public, a website is free to repeat the information.

If a website pays for NPD numbers, they are not allowed to publish Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft numbers unless Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft put them out in a press release first. It has been this way for a while, except NPD published some numbers to the public which sort of made this rule pointless.

This is how it worked the last time NPD pulled their public press release and I'm assuming it is working the same way now.

So, say Sony don't reveal their numbers next month. No website can report their numbers even if they have them (by being a paid subscriber), obviously though some people are going to leak them on a fourm. I guess we just have to hope they're honest with it ...



 

nordlead on 12 October 2010
Khuutra said:

Holy freaking Hell, they're getting rid of numbers altogether in their quarterly public reports?

Oh God

Oh God what if NeoGAF sales-age starts using VGChartz

They pulled this stunt once before and NeoGAF didn't start using VGChartz. Granted, NPD rescinded on their statement pretty quickly.




If you drop a PS3 right on top of a Wii, it would definitely defeat it. Not so sure about the Xbox360. - mancandy
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