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the xbox360 may be in second now but it will finish in last. Mircosoft is loseing money right now on core system and the regular but they are makeing money on the elite. they are also loseing on on the HDDVD dirve. now most companies make this money up by selling software. Sence most of mircosofts games are 3rd party Mircosoft isnt makeing egounh games of their own to make this money up. The red ring of death is makeing it so microsoft is having to do repeirs for free. Senice the xbox360 is at a 33% failure rate they are loseing alot of money on this. Mirosoft had to spend 20m fixing 360s and they are still failing. from june to now 17 shippments of xbox360s have been called back. this is a result of them starting productoin 69 days before the lunach. Now Microsoft for the last 5 years has been loseing money but Mircosfot stated that thier gameing divsoin would be porifitable in 2008. in 2008 there is a high chance of the PS3 passing the 360 wicth then 3rd party devolpers will support the PS3 and not the 360. this will result in the PS3 getting more games and makeing more people buying a ps3 insted of a 360. No 3rd party support will lead to the downfall of the xbox. this is the same thing that happened to the gamecube. the only resoin nintendo is still alive is from the NES,SNES and N64. If we look back a gen the xbox didnt do very good. let me remind you it only beat the gamecube by 2m units. Now everyone is saying that Xbox360 has better games than Ps3 and wii. Now lets take a look back a year and a half ago on june 2006.bback then the xbox360 had no good games. Now it does so the Ps3 is moveing at a faster rate as the 360 is the only thing is the 360 had a years start so in the long run the ps3 will have better games than the 360. this all depends on the 360s slaes and at the rate the 360 is selling now it is doomed. now this is all a predictoin but this is possible that it might happen and end up as the dreamcast. like i said it all depends on the 360s sales

This is pretty much the worst post I have ever seen. The only reasone nintendo is alive is because of NES, SNES and N64? Are you kidding???? Was that a joke I was suppose to laugh at???? Here are some reasons Nintendo is still around:

 1.) The OWN the handheld market now and for the past 15 years. They have never had a competitor that has lasted more than one generation.

 2.) They didn't use the loss leader strategy that Sony uses. In case you don't know what that means,(and I guess you probably don't) Nintendo decided to sell the gamecube at a profit so they would be profitable selling 10 million, 25 million, or even 100 million because each console makes a profit.

Sony's strategy requires them to be the leader and sell 100 million consoles to make a profit.

 3.) They own Mario and Zelda and all their other franchises.



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in 2008 there is a high chance of the PS3 passing the 360 wicth then 3rd party devolpers will support the PS3 and not the 360. this will result in the PS3 getting more games and makeing more people buying a ps3 insted of a 360. No 3rd party support will lead to the downfall of the xbox. this is the same thing that happened to the gamecube. the only resoin nintendo is still alive is from the NES,SNES and N64.


Conveniently ignore the fact that not only did the GC make money it made a lot of money. The reason Nintendo still is alive is because they are excellent at making money, something all other companies have seemed to struggle with in this market.



well i also think the xbox is dying and then sega will try to hop on the hardware market again and make a console that will be selling better than the xbox 360



N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!

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I stopped reading your post after the fourth time you misspelled "losing".

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"the xbox360 may be in second now but it will finish in last. Mircosoft is loseing money right now on core system and the regular but they are makeing money on the elite."

Because they are losing money on their system theyre going to come last in the console wars? Sony is losing a hell of a lot more on each console than Microsoft is right now, and Microsoft is much much bigger and can take the loses... I dont know how money has very much to do with winning or losing this war (apart from development costs for each console).

"now most companies make this money up by selling software. Sence most of mircosofts games are 3rd party Mircosoft isnt makeing egounh games of their own to make this money up."

Last time i checked Microsoft was frequently publishing 2nd party games that were doing very well. Examples? Halo 3, not to mention GoW did pretty well too. Microsoft, as it licenses every game on the console, gets a share of the money from every game sold on their system as well, so i dont know what you are on about. 

"in 2008 there is a high chance of the PS3 passing the 360 wicth then 3rd party devolpers will support the PS3 and not the 360"

Publishers will not stop supporting the 360 and solely support the PS3 in the event of the PS3 overtaking the 360, it just doesnt work like that. There are many other things to take into account, such as attach ratios, and development costs... Development costs this generation are so high that it would be suicide for many publishers to release a game on only one of these systems, as the development costs are so rediculously high, and there is no guarantee that they will break even or make a proft. There is a much better chance however if games are released on both systems, which has become a general trend.

"the only resoin nintendo is still alive is from the NES,SNES and N64."

What about their handheld division?!?!

 First off, i think you need to use proper grammer and learn to write properly.

Second off, i highly doubt that microsoft will be leaving the gaming market anytime soon. They want to take control of peoples living rooms, something Sony also wants. They have the chance to edge them out of their position there with the Xbox 360, and so far it hasnt been going too bad. They also want downloads to take off, not Blu-Ray or HD DVD, which will be possible through the 360. The day that Microsoft accomplishes all these aims is the day that i see them withdrawing from the gaming market.

 



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I think that if analysts were too look at numbers, and not look at the names of the company, they would scream when they saw the losses Sony was taking and assume it was Xbox in 2002. Sony is closer to being Dreamcasted than Microsoft ever was. Microsoft, as a company, has profits that can only be compared to Walmart and other Oil companys.



i dont know,maybe if they fail to make in impact in japan they will leave the console war but not after 360



If Sony will become the leader for 2 more generations ... than maybe , but not sooner . Home consoles will incorporate OSs inside them ( look at PS3 ) , and MS cannot let a huge market , as the console market to slip by them . I dont see them actually leaving the market , but I could see them entering with a handheld ...



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The original poster could not be more wrong. As far as the console wars go, Microsoft has only just got their foot in the door. They will definitely release another console and if Wii sales continue to be strong over the next few years, MS will be the first to market by some margin. I strongly suspect that the X720 will come out at least 2 years before the PS4.

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Why do we care at all what games the Xbox 360 had in June 2006? This is Dec. of 2007! It has no relation to even the PS3 for relative reasons! Dec. 2006 I can maybe understand for another first year to second year arguement, but June? WTF?!