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Beuli2 on 22 September 2010
Zlejedi said:
zuvuyeay said:

i was thinking that the Wii would be a good emerging market console when its alot cheaper,motion controls,perfect really

but you don't think they have the infrastructure to sell it everywhere,why not? 

What do you mean by why?

It's not hypothesis it's fact.

Nintendo completly ignores emerging markets.

In Poland which have potential to sell 500k PS2 consoles (and which still sell to this day and is one of more popular gifts for children) Nintendo doesn't even have a single guy responsible for promoting their machines.

Their idea of "marketing" in 2008 was sending google autotranslated press notes to gaming portals but even that stopped as people were making fun of them (no suprises here for anyone who ever used auto translator knows the end "quality").

Also their price is emerginging markets is far from competitive. Why would average consumer bother with 800-900 pln Wii when he can get well known Playstation 2 for 400 with cheap games and even special Poland oriented versions of Singstar or PS3 for 1100-1400 which comes with all those fully translated PS3 hits (including voice acting done by recognizable actors). 

And then thare's also Microsoft offering another alternative with plenty of presence in media and easily pirated console (which is huge thing in such places)

Add to that demographic which is mainly retired pc gamers or pc gamers looking to get another platform and you have receipt for disaster.

Other problem with  emergin markets are the prices. A  Wii in Brazil (wich has the potential to become  almost as big as the USA someday) costs about U$650,00 in official retailers, and new games costs about twice as one on the US.



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Mr.Metralha on 22 September 2010
raptors11 said:
Mr.Metralha said:

You're ignoring that PS2 saw a redesign while the Wii has yet to see it. If it will ever see.

 

Redesign make wonders, for instance look at how the 360 or the Ps3 have been selling since they went slimmer.

IMO, a Wii redisign later this year would be ideal. That way we would be back to 2007 numbers, and beating the PS2 in overall sales would be child play.


How can you make the Wii slimmer? Its already much smaller than the PS3 slim and 360 S. I don't think there will be any kind of redesign for the Wii at all.

I didn't said that it would be slimmer.

Just a different redesign, along with a big title would skyrocket the sales.

In fact, the Wii current design is too much angular imo, a new console with some smooth lines and a customizable color on the front LED light would make it.

 



MrT-Tar on 22 September 2010

I think the Wii will settle at about 110m myself




kopstudent89 on 22 September 2010
Beuli2 said:
Zlejedi said:
zuvuyeay said:

i was thinking that the Wii would be a good emerging market console when its alot cheaper,motion controls,perfect really

but you don't think they have the infrastructure to sell it everywhere,why not? 

What do you mean by why?

It's not hypothesis it's fact.

Nintendo completly ignores emerging markets.

In Poland which have potential to sell 500k PS2 consoles (and which still sell to this day and is one of more popular gifts for children) Nintendo doesn't even have a single guy responsible for promoting their machines.

Their idea of "marketing" in 2008 was sending google autotranslated press notes to gaming portals but even that stopped as people were making fun of them (no suprises here for anyone who ever used auto translator knows the end "quality").

Also their price is emerginging markets is far from competitive. Why would average consumer bother with 800-900 pln Wii when he can get well known Playstation 2 for 400 with cheap games and even special Poland oriented versions of Singstar or PS3 for 1100-1400 which comes with all those fully translated PS3 hits (including voice acting done by recognizable actors). 

And then thare's also Microsoft offering another alternative with plenty of presence in media and easily pirated console (which is huge thing in such places)

Add to that demographic which is mainly retired pc gamers or pc gamers looking to get another platform and you have receipt for disaster.

Other problem with  emergin markets are the prices. A  Wii in Brazil (wich has the potential to become  almost as big as the USA someday) costs about U$650,00 in official retailers, and new games costs about twice as one on the US.

Here in lebanon the wii is the most expensive console... go figure



Wagram on 22 September 2010

The PS2s software library is just....wow.



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FlyingLotus on 22 September 2010
raptors11 said:
Mr.Metralha said:

You're ignoring that PS2 saw a redesign while the Wii has yet to see it. If it will ever see.

 

Redesign make wonders, for instance look at how the 360 or the Ps3 have been selling since they went slimmer.

IMO, a Wii redisign later this year would be ideal. That way we would be back to 2007 numbers, and beating the PS2 in overall sales would be child play.


How can you make the Wii slimmer? Its already much smaller than the PS3 slim and 360 S. I don't think there will be any kind of redesign for the Wii at all.

I have a feeling you can .Also all the redesign needs is some added things and hd and you've got enough sales.



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

its been confirmed today that GT5 has a weather system, track editor and go karts! seriously i think this is going to be the best selling in the series even beating GT3 sales of 14 million plus!

Toddifer on 22 September 2010

The software is definitely an issue. Aside from the minor abberations of success (Just Dance, Carnival Games), there haven't been a lot of 'breakout' hits on the Wii. Sure, plenty of titles have done solid business, but if you look at the PS2 now, having been out 10 years, it still gets some software, but it's mostly the yearly Madden and FIFA titles, and not much else. The Wii isn't even going to have that kind of support in a couple years because those games have never sold immensely well, especially compared to X360 and PS3, so why continue to make those games once the Wii market really starts to dry up? Don't get me wrong, Nintendo will (and already has), sold plenty of Wii's so far, but it just won't have the legs that the PS2 has.



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Nintendogamer on 22 September 2010
Wagram said:

The PS2s software library is just....wow.

They've sold more than 1 Trillion on PS2 haven't they?



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Toddifer on 22 September 2010

I don't see the Wii getting a 'redesign', but the only reason I say that is because Nintendo has never really done that. They've released some add-on stuff, like the 64DD i think, right? but never done a complete redesign. But maybe it's time they jump into that pool, too. It's worked well for Sony and Microsoft...



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Cobra_ on 22 September 2010
Zlejedi said:
zuvuyeay said:

i was thinking that the Wii would be a good emerging market console when its alot cheaper,motion controls,perfect really

but you don't think they have the infrastructure to sell it everywhere,why not? 

What do you mean by why?

It's not hypothesis it's fact.

Nintendo completly ignores emerging markets.

In Poland which have potential to sell 500k PS2 consoles (and which still sell to this day and is one of more popular gifts for children) Nintendo doesn't even have a single guy responsible for promoting their machines.

Their idea of "marketing" in 2008 was sending google autotranslated press notes to gaming portals but even that stopped as people were making fun of them (no suprises here for anyone who ever used auto translator knows the end "quality").

Also their price is emerginging markets is far from competitive. Why would average consumer bother with 800-900 pln Wii when he can get well known Playstation 2 for 400 with cheap games and even special Poland oriented versions of Singstar or PS3 for 1100-1400 which comes with all those fully translated PS3 hits (including voice acting done by recognizable actors). 

And then thare's also Microsoft offering another alternative with plenty of presence in media and easily pirated console (which is huge thing in such places)

Add to that demographic which is mainly retired pc gamers or pc gamers looking to get another platform and you have receipt for disaster.


Well, I guess we are lucky to have a good Nintendo distributor in Czech Republic. There is no Nintendo affiliate here, but another company has exclusive rights for Czech Rep.

It's true that the situation is not as good as with Playstation though - Sony Czech is marketing their consoles better as they have more money to spend. Still, there was a (noticeable if you were trying ) TV campaign for Wii Fit featuring a local well-known fitness guy, they have Wii and DS promotions in big media - not just gaming magazines - from time to time, etc.

I have no idea why something like that couldn't work just as well in Poland which is a much bigger market.



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