Did i say something about core move titles?

You know when you buy ps3 they also give you dual shock ;)

Processing where the Wii sensor bar is is done in hardware by the "camera"/infrared sensor in the Wii remote itself, so in practice this doesn't need any processing or increases lag. So the Wii Remote already sends the X/Y coordinate and light intensity of the infrared lights in the sensor bar, and using these values to calculate the X/Y position you're pointing at on the screen extremely simple.

And WiiMotion Plus does not need to know the position of the sensor bar. The problem of the original Wii Remote is that the only motion sensor it has is an acceleration sensor. And the biggest problem of these acceleration sensors is that they cannot detect rotation about the "vertical" axis at all (well, I mean the axis called "Z" in the following image)

This was a huge problem especially for the accuracy of games like table tennis. WiiMotion Plus solved this problem, as it adds a gyroscope which is capable of detecting such motions as well. There is no need for WiiMotion Plus to know where the sensor bar is, as the sensor bar is only used for pointing on screen anyway.

So with the WiiMotion Plus addon, the Wii is now capable of detecting relative rotation around the axis called "Z" in the above image. But unlike the Move controller, what it still cannot detect is absolute rotation around the "Z" axis. So for example, it doesn't really know if the front of your Wii Remote is pointing exactly towards the screen, in a right angle from the screen or exactly in the opposite direction of the screen. The Move controller knows this because it furthermore has an additional magnetic field sensor (which works like a compass), and that makes games like for example table tennis more realistic and accurate. And its the main reason why waggling still works in Wii Sports Resort table tennis.

So even without the additional camera/glowing sphere combination that slightly increases the lag the Move controller is way more accurate than a Wii Remote with a WiiMotion Plus addon. Don't use the camera and the glowing sphere in a PS move game, and the lag will be exactly as low (or even lower) than that of the Wii Remote, there will be no processing overhead and the Move controller would still be more powerful and accurate as a Wii Remote/WiiMotion plus combination.

Sure, strictly speaking you're of course right.

What I mean is that the sensor data your game receives is already final as soon as it enters the Wii, the Wii does not need to process and analyze the data before the input data is handed over to the game. Of course your game still has to interpret the sensor data it receives, which depending on the way you use motion controls can be extremely easy or more complicated.

But there is no need for the Wii to constantly analyze the images of a video stream, trying to detect the XYZ position of certain points in the image before that data is handed over to your game.

Yes I played that mode too, I played it even more with friends than the 3 point contest. No problems.

The one and only time I played Wii I noticed lag. Or rather a perceptable delay between what I did with the Wiimote and what happened on screen. But that's OK, you can easily compensate for lag as long as it's not too long. When first playing the tennis game I tried to time my swing according to when I'd do it in real life, but on screen the swing would happen too late, so I compensated by starting the swing a fraction of a second early. No big deal. By all accounts the inherent Move lag is within acceptable tolerance, so people will easily compensate.

What annoyed me about the Wii was that it constantly interpreted movements incorrectly. I'd want to wind up for a swing at the ball (tennis) but it would interpret the wind up as the swing, thus the game would swing way earlier than I intended and I would flub the shot. Or I'd be in the forehand position and want to cross over to backhand and it would interpret my crossing over action as the shot, again swinging early and missing the shot. If Move eliminates that frustration then I'll have a lot more fun with it than I had with Wii.

And did you see the sexy legs on that table tennis chick? The Wii characters don't even have legs.

lag? you mean like this?

one is made by Sony and one isn't

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on a side note: am i the only one happy about the thought that Move won't be successful, because god I hope it isn't, I really want this to have the same fate as the eye toy in the ps2 era, Sony sells to Gamers and it's where they do their best, and like with the eye toy I think we've showed Sony we DON'T want motion control, I'm afraid of Sony pulling a Nintendo next gen, so my money is on Move being ignored, which is looking likely

now if we can only get Call of Duty as a xbox exclusive.........

That's because it could only detect forehand and backhand swings. With motion plus it can register far more accurately than that old game and mote set-up.

ps. To al the berks that think the sensor is needed in game. It isn't. It is required to calibrate only. Once it has position on screen at the start of a contest at doesn't need to look at the sensor at all until it starts getting outta sync.

Not it shows that you cant just make your wrist have a spasm, and expect to get the ball on the table.

Thank God!
I mean i was worrying there until you showed everyone a quote of possibly one of the most Nintendo-bias people on IGN.
Nice save.