There's one small thing being glossed over: EVERY controller has lag. No exceptions. Some of it is just not perceivable because of rendering speeds. I'll take an NES controller- the lag from the button press to the system was about 3 milliseconds (0.003s). Then it needs to call the command for the button, which takes a few more milliseconds. But, at 30 FPS, the NES had about ~0.03s (~30ms) before it had to draw the next image. Everything was processed before this interval was up, so the next frame could account for this, creating no visible lag.

Enter today's market. The PS3 has a push for some games to be 60 FPS, effectively halving the time to draw an image (~15 ms, ~0.015s). The wire on the PSEye still has that 3 ms delay, plus there are now added delays from your motion to the camera, plus the system having to process and call the command for the motion data. This, in addition to having to call any button press commands, which come through on a seperate input. Apparently, this led to a greater delay than 0.03 seconds, or more than 1 frame, thus, the ability to perceive the lag. The Wiimote, with fewer inputs for control (all through the controller, rather than controller/camera hybrid), coupled with the controller itself getting light data from the sensor bar, reduces the window for lag. But the basics, like the input delay, the call function delay, and the need to process the extra data, like the gyroscope at X-0.1034 Y-0.0143, the light bar sensor angle difference, whether it is processed by the Wiimote or the Wii itself, all add to the lag. Whether it is sufficient enough to create noticable delay, I can't say for certain, since I don't have the data for input delays for this gen.

But visible lag actually affects  gameplay, cause as you said it takes longer, which in turn means it's a more delayed reaction, from what I've played so far it is indeed noticeable and can hurt things when you're doing faster movements.  How this will work out in the long run remains to be seen however.

True, I think Red Steel 2 has good control but it doesn't make good use of Motion Plus.  It doesn't even approach, nor does it try to be, 1:1, which is what I think maxwellGT2000 was getting at.

That's a laughable at best.   A millisecond delay between your hand and the on-screen representation?   I'm sure that just pains him to play Sports Champions.  That millisecond of delay!   Not shocking coming from the Team Nintendo guy though.

I can say one thing that I love about Move already that was absolutely pitiful with the Wii.  (When playing a game that might take me off 'screen' like say in Wii Sports Resort (Basketball), with Move I can play a full game without complete mess ups and lack of registry. 

lack of registry in Wii Sports Resort (Basketball) my ass. you cant tell me shit ! I have played the 3 point contest mode many times and i had no problems at all.

Another thing, Greg Miller said he would go with wii sports resort and he is a Sony boy so what's your point ?

Maybe you're  5'-5" IRL or something.  Try playing the 3 on 3 Basketball mode with a friend sometime and try a legitimate jump shot in the game.  It's absolutely terrible and disappointing.  It has what seems like a 50% success rate between messing up entirely or actually doing the action its supposed to.

I can't stand when I'm out of the sensor bar and it completely flubs my shot up.   It totally negates any benefits derived from that 'millisecond' of speed faster that it has.   *rolleyes*.

Furthermore,  I don't care about what he feels about Sports Champions, Personally I find it to be a lot of fun and more lasting fun (With the Gladiator, Bocce, Ping Pong) and I am able to actually enjoy playing it by myself or with a friend.   I can't say the same about Sports Resort which really was fun for an occasional round of Basketball, Golf , Bowling or Archery with a friend.  Beyond that, they could take all the other 'waggle' fest games back.

My only real complaint is I feel they could have just added certain sports that Sports Resort did relatively easy (Bowling, Basketball) or things like Baseball, Football  or had more Team Co-operative modes or even online play to the game.  Beyond that, I feel it is a better game overall than Sports Resort is with better controls overall.

I think it's just absolutely laughable that he feels that the Move is a 'millisecond' laggier than the Wii Motion Plus.  Such a small difference is practically indistinguishable in the given context and him making a point of it is just clearly setting down his Nintendo-colored flag, like we've seen so many other times.

you do know that is it just programming? it was designed for flicking wrists because non gamers would play this and jsut want to swing any old how to have fun with others. 

Look at Tiger Woods 11, they had to tone down the precision because it was to real and hard to play for non golfers. EA complained about the precision of WMPLus

You are right it's all about games.

That's why ps3 wins  like Mike Tyson versus paper weight boxer-  it has great library of core titles spanning among all genres and allows developer to use move only in games where it's beneficial.

That's before we get started on superior graphics, online not requiring friend codes and all the other "it does everything" stuff.

Uhm...

I don't think so. The Wiimote itself uses accelerometer data, which without interpretation, is quite useless (compared to button presses) and additional to that the Wiimote is camera based as well, as every Wiimote has a 60Hz infra-red camera, which tracks the "sensor bar" (it doesn't have any sensors, it just has IR light sources) - without that the Wii wouldn't know whether or not the Wiimote is poiting at the TV.

So I can't imagine the Wiimote data to be "used as is", it has to processed and synchronized, especially when gyro data from Motion Plus is added to the equation.

I'm sorry, but can you advice me, what 'great library of core titles' for Move it really has now?