PS3 outsold 360 last year because of a Slim redesign and a price cut to boost it. Now 360 is outselling the PS3 on an almost equal level with only a redesign and no price cut. A price cut to $200 would affect both consoles equally.

PS3 had many price cuts from it's initial $600 price tag, and only the only with the redesign pushed sales above 360 level. Why do you beleive, against the statistics, that a $100 price cut on both consoles with no redesign will favor PS3 more, when it hasn't in the past? If anything, wouldn't it favor the 360 more since the arcade model will be selling for $100-$130 US? At that price, the consoles costs the same as a couple new games, how many people can ignore that?

The 360 has been outselling the PS3 consistantly until last August due to the PS3 Slim redesign. Now Microsoft has balanced the scales with it's own Slim redesign, and it will remain the better selling console of the two for the remainder of the generation (outside a few weeks due to large PS3 game releases like GT5). Also Kinect may really push sales towards the 360, Move won't do much for PS3 at all.

Just going to say, GT might not be THAT much of a effect against console sales.  the Kinect bundle might really effect the sales of 360, seeing as Kinect already has 100,000 pre-orders on it.  That first week people who are open to motion controlling will show if Kinect has a "WOW" effect, and into december will see if it has that.  I say "WOW" effect, cause that's what every person that has actually tested the tech out has stated (other than harsh critics of the gaming industry), and that's how many casual gamers reacted when they played with Wii.

It's going to stay a real close race no matter what... 360 seems to still have alot of steam and Sony is growing nicely. A distinct winner between the two is not very likely.

Wow I think I misread your older point because now I see your supporting 360 dominance.

Anyway, well I think I disagree on your next message. I think GT5 and Kinect both have the potential to encourage people to buy their respective console more then the other. GT5 will be huge in EMEAA (usually sells about twice as well there), and it will help keep EMEAA sales in favor of PS3. However, if Kinect really takes off then Americas sales may be in favor of the 360 2:1 (potentially). I know Kinect will take off, but I really doubt that this peripheral will steal future Wii sales. It has potential, but it's so hard to judge it's success.

Getting back onto PS3 outselling 360 in 2 year, it can't. Microsoft has a much stronger lineup this fall, and "the trump card" that pushed PS3 sales over 360 (The slim effect). A lot more attention is being placed on Microsoft this fall, GT5 cannot replicated Halo, Kinect, and the Slim Effect all on it's own.

So if PS3 were to outsell the 360, it would somehow have to sell 6 million more consoles from January 2011 until September 2012, and no thats not possible. Outselling the 360 without the Slim Effect has never been done on the PS3, and now you expect it to outsell the 360 by 6 million in less then 2 years? I see no reason for PS3 sales to jump after this fall, and I see no reason for 360 sales to drop.

At best case, PS3 outsells the 360 by a million units in 2011-2014. That reduces the initial lead that the 360 had, but doesn't put PS3 above 360. Thats the best chance PS3 has IMO, but even then, I just don't think PS3 will outsell the 360 after this fall. I think the difference will grow to 7 million, and it will only stop growing if Microsoft replaces the 360 a year before Sony replaces the PS3. Even then it would need more then a year to catch up as sales on both consoles will probably have dropped by then.

Not sure what else could be said here that hasn't already except for the fact that, by the time this is all said and done? It probably won't matter anyways.

Sony is finally making some cash per console and they're not about to rock that boat when they're turning a profit. Price drops just don't seem like they're going to be in the foreseeable future. In turn, Microsoft won't feel threatened and they'll keep the prices as they are, at least until they decide how to fiddle with their Kinect balacing act. So, no price drops there for sales rates.

Games have tended to sell consoles, but these days? Halo: Reach and GT5, I don't think either one is going to have a tonne of effect on console sales because, frankly, those who want them have probably already got a PS3 and 360. I mean, they've both been eagerly anticipated for quite some time and, as has already been shown, people had plenty of consoles already for Halo 3 and GT5: Prologue, so it would make sense to think that there will be no spike for either one. Kinect and Move, maybe so, not sure, but those, too, seem like something that will be for the masses who have already purchased. So, I just can't reasonably claim there will be a true spike on any of those either.

By the end of this year or beginning of next, the 360's Slim numbers will start to peeter off and the two will be fighting neck and neck once again. And, as kowenicki has already posted some great statistics, I will refrain from doing the same. All in all? I think that there is a potential for the PS3 to outsell the 360...but it'll take so long that it won't matter anymore. Both companies will have already achieved what they set out to do with their consoles.

Now, if I were to claim what actually came out of this generation except numbers? Nintendo proved they have aces up their sleeves in the market, Microsoft proved that they can create a fun and marketable console and Sony managed to introduce the Blu-Ray to the gaming market, learning what they need to make a console even better next time around. Oh, and a lot of pretty happy gamers.

numbers.... pffft here is good old idle speculation http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338

so the 360 getting a price cut to a price it is already at and have been for the past 2.5 years will see the same if not bigger boost than the ps3 who has never been at the price point ever.....ok

and console redesigns  make bigger boost than price cuts...................... riiiiiight

you know the majority of the 360s boost came from a clearance of it's old models and selling to existing users right?

Oh cool, you have the sales numbers?

I didn't realize they put out that information.

check 360 software during the time of the 360s launch and do the same for the ps3 during the time of it slim launch, to it's just logic to me........ the biggest boost in 360 since the launch of the arcade and the software stays completely flat...... but you are right though, my last statement= pure speculation

I mean because who knows, maybe Vgchartz untracked 360 software for that time, I mean according to this site 2 million Ps3's are in a ditch somewhere in Africa, which of course makes perfect sense to me. but maybe 360 software did see a noticeable boost, guess we'll never know huh?

Exactly, we'll never know.