If Kinect doesn't push alot of hardware for X360 in Nov-Dec then there isn't anything to really push X360 in a huge way over the last couple of months. Halo / Call of Duty / Fable / Fallout are all sequels with one to several previous entries on X360. Medal of Honor and some others will push hardware, but there was unique stuff last year too. There will be some ongoing help from the Slim / new models but it just doesn't look like a dramatically better Christmas season given than X360 hardware sales declined last year.I still wouldn't be that surprised if it was down - if you look at PS3 last year weekly sales only doubled from the initial week of the PS3 Slim Price cut to the best week of the year. X360 had a temporary price cut, not a permanent one - I don't know that you can expect as big a lift from Slim week one to peak holiday week. The people shopping for Christmas don't give a damn about models just whether they have to buy a X360, Wii, PS3, DS, PSP or whatever, so the lack of a price cut / sequels would normally indicate flat to down Christmas for a system as old as the X360 even with the Slim. With Kinect and the new games for it, in addition to the sequels, and Slim it probably will be up a small amount. If Kinect flops, it will be down though. These Slim line models never seem to accompany any real software lifts either if you look at the totals when they launch - even though the overall base goes up, I don't know that they really sell to new users. I would never choose to not buy / buy a system based on its size - if you want the thing you can make room. In terms of interest from new users, even with Kinect and Move all three consoles are going to be in decline this Christmas, even though X360 will be up a bit and Wii / PS3 only down a bit.