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Mr Puggsly said:
Tigerlure said:


No, I'm not under that assumption. What I do know at this moment is 2011 is looking like a MUCH better year for Sony than it is for Microsoft. I also think that you guys are relying on Kinect too much to carry the 360 on, as with Fable 3, which definitely won't be as much as a system seller as Halo Reach. So what do you have after this Christmas? Gears and thats it? Then what? Kinect exclusives? If that's all Microsoft has for 2011, I'd be a little bit worried, because Sony will probably have a few surprises in for you.

What's your point? Doesn't Sony have a "MUCH better year" every year? Is 2011 some how even more spectacular than all the others years?

As I said before, you don't know what MS has coming after the Holidays. And once again you underestimate them by saying Gears is all they have coming. Why promote future games when MS already has a lot coming for 2010?

Every year the 360 gets great exclusives. I don't see why 2011 is gonna be any different.

What exclusives? honestly every year 360 gets a halo or gears and some racing games and thats about it for decent exclusives 



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Caddelin said:

 

PS3 is already a commercial failure in every aspect. Sony has already suffered irrecuperable losses with it along the years (just recently Sony managed to have some margin of profit over each unit sold).

That alone would be disastrous. If you take into account the fact that Sony held the virtual monopoly of consoles with PS2, it just aggravates the disappointing sales of PS3. So, EVEN IF it manages to outsell the 360 by the end of this generation (which is not a certainty whatsoever), it is still one of the biggest commercial flops in videogame history.

Oh yeah, before I forget, I own both a 360 AND a PS3. 

 

Whats your point, from a quality stand point is better value then the 360 in almost every way, and everyone has had a console flop even nintendo bottom line is it's a far better choose then the 360 and the only reason the 360 is outselling it is because it was cheap and people are idiots 



Michael-5 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Tigerlure said:


No, I'm not under that assumption. What I do know at this moment is 2011 is looking like a MUCH better year for Sony than it is for Microsoft. I also think that you guys are relying on Kinect too much to carry the 360 on, as with Fable 3, which definitely won't be as much as a system seller as Halo Reach. So what do you have after this Christmas? Gears and thats it? Then what? Kinect exclusives? If that's all Microsoft has for 2011, I'd be a little bit worried, because Sony will probably have a few surprises in for you.

What's your point? Doesn't Sony have a "MUCH better year" every year? Is 2011 some how even more spectacular than all the others years?

As I said before, you don't know what MS has coming after the Holidays. And once again you underestimate them by saying Gears is all they have coming. Why promote future games when MS already has a lot coming for 2010?

Every year the 360 gets great exclusives. I don't see why 2011 is gonna be any different.

Actually looking online at some exclusives, 360 does have a pretty decent 2011 lineup, it's just that Sony advertizes games comming out in the distant future, where Microsoft does not. I mean have you heard any information about Huxley, Forza Kinect, Kingdoms, Kingdom Under Fire, Dead Island, Crash Time 2, Mech Warrior, Demons of Mercy, Dungeon Hero, Prey 2, Duke Nukem, Risen, or Theseis among others? Also Microsoft tends to announce big games late. Forza Motorsport 3 was annouced in E3 2009 and was released in October 2009, Gears 2 was announced in April 2008 and released in November 2008, etc.

Atleast half of those games will suck horribly and become the 360 exclusive no1 ever hears about or wants (there are tons of them just look at the 360 list) so I seriously doubt 360 has a decent 2011 line up, I mean what good unknown 360 exclusives came out in 2010 or 2009?



Does it really matter if the PS3 outsells the 360?  By the time it happens the next XBox should be underway, and it would mean nothing by then because the focus would be shifted on the next generation of consoles. You could say that Sony beat MS in the end, but by then everyone will remember Sony being in third place during the console wars. The only place Microsoft failed was in Japan.



It's just that simple.

MonstaMack said:

Does it really matter if the PS3 outsells the 360?  By the time it happens the next XBox should be underway, and it would mean nothing by then because the focus would be shifted on the next generation of consoles. You could say that Sony beat MS in the end, but by then everyone will remember Sony being in third place during the console wars. The only place Microsoft failed was in Japan.

Not true, ps3 is ahead of 360 in almost every country besides usa, and unless they discontinue 360s in really soon ps3 will over take it, and ps3 is better quality wise in every way so if we ignore sales and commercialism, ps3 is by far the best console on the market maybe even the best console ever (atleast the BC models)



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unknown_soul89 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Tigerlure said:


No, I'm not under that assumption. What I do know at this moment is 2011 is looking like a MUCH better year for Sony than it is for Microsoft. I also think that you guys are relying on Kinect too much to carry the 360 on, as with Fable 3, which definitely won't be as much as a system seller as Halo Reach. So what do you have after this Christmas? Gears and thats it? Then what? Kinect exclusives? If that's all Microsoft has for 2011, I'd be a little bit worried, because Sony will probably have a few surprises in for you.

What's your point? Doesn't Sony have a "MUCH better year" every year? Is 2011 some how even more spectacular than all the others years?

As I said before, you don't know what MS has coming after the Holidays. And once again you underestimate them by saying Gears is all they have coming. Why promote future games when MS already has a lot coming for 2010?

Every year the 360 gets great exclusives. I don't see why 2011 is gonna be any different.

What exclusives? honestly every year 360 gets a halo or gears and some racing games and thats about it for decent exclusives 

Right, either you're playing dumb or you're ignorant. There were more exclusives than that this year. Go see what games came to the 360 this year and not the PS3 before you even consider replying.



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Mr Puggsly said:
unknown_soul89 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Tigerlure said:


No, I'm not under that assumption. What I do know at this moment is 2011 is looking like a MUCH better year for Sony than it is for Microsoft. I also think that you guys are relying on Kinect too much to carry the 360 on, as with Fable 3, which definitely won't be as much as a system seller as Halo Reach. So what do you have after this Christmas? Gears and thats it? Then what? Kinect exclusives? If that's all Microsoft has for 2011, I'd be a little bit worried, because Sony will probably have a few surprises in for you.

What's your point? Doesn't Sony have a "MUCH better year" every year? Is 2011 some how even more spectacular than all the others years?

As I said before, you don't know what MS has coming after the Holidays. And once again you underestimate them by saying Gears is all they have coming. Why promote future games when MS already has a lot coming for 2010?

Every year the 360 gets great exclusives. I don't see why 2011 is gonna be any different.

What exclusives? honestly every year 360 gets a halo or gears and some racing games and thats about it for decent exclusives 

Right, either you're playing dumb or you're ignorant. There were more exclusives than that this year. Go see what games came to the 360 this year and not the PS3 before you even consider replying.

I asked you what exclusives, if you can't answer then their goes your argument 



unknown_soul89 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Right, either you're playing dumb or you're ignorant. There were more exclusives than that this year. Go see what games came to the 360 this year and not the PS3 before you even consider replying.

I asked you what exclusives, if you can't answer then their goes your argument 

Banned again are you? Well you can respond when you get back.

A few major games were Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Alan Wake, and Crackdown 2. Reach and Fable 3 are still coming. There are plenty of Kinect exclusives which will be unique additions to the 360 library. There were a few decent niche titles as well like Metro 2033, Deadly Premonition, N3:2, DeathSmiles, etc. On top of that we had plenty of great XBLA exclusives.

Some of the best titles on both HD consoles are 3rd party games. But if you are a whore for exclusives for some reason, the 360 received quality exclusives as well. As they do every year.



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unknown_soul89 said:
ironman said:
unknown_soul89 said:
ironman said:
unknown_soul89 said:

Okay seriously people saying the ps3 will never outsell the 360 need to do some fact checking, the 360 has been out for a year longer, so if ps3 is on the market for the same amount of time as the 360 it will outsell it (selling about 9.5 mil on average a year with about a 3.5 mil gab) and ps3 sells about 1 million more consoles a year then the 360 does, actually lets be more specific then that 

38.1/4= 9.525 million a year

41.7/5=8.34 million a year 

9.525-8.34= 1.185 million difference a year

41.7-38.1=3.6 million

3.6/1.185=3.037 years until the ps3 outsells the 360, assuming they both stay on the market

Well of course it would if things stay exactly as they are. But lets face it, that's not gonna happen, there are too many game changers from both sides of the isle to make silly predictions like this. I really can't see any possible way the PS3 outsells the 360 until it is no longer on the market. And after that, bragging about how the PS3 outsold other consoles from it's gen will just be like saying you are the smartest kid with down syndrome. It just 'aint that great. I suggest you settle down and play a game on your PS3 instead of trying to validate your purchase of said console by insulting the intelegence of the gaming community.
 

lol you can't see a way for the ps3 to outsell the 360 till its not on the market lol, if the 360 wasn't on the market the ps3 would over take it in 3months it's only a matter of time until the ps3 outsells the 360

Ah, so you are talking lifetime sales...how very deceptive of you. I don't see any way the PS3 is going to outsell the 360 until the "720" is released and the 360 is phased out. That is, unless Sony does something simply amazing...and they have already played that card with the slim and the pricecut, they just don't have much leftthey can do, MS still has a trick or two in the bag.

No I'm saying if we are talking lifetime 360 doesn't have a chance, and if they both stay on the market awhile longer ps3 will eventually overtake 360


As I said, how deceptive. Lifetime is a joke, bragging about sales after the 360 is off the market is like saying you are the smartest kid with Down Syndrome. It just isn't as cool as you may think. As for the OP's assumption that the PS3 will overtake the 360 within three years, well, I just can't see a scenario where that happens. As for the other garbage you are posting here, get over yourself. You don't have a clue what you are talking about, and clearly you have an agenda. It's kinda sad really.



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unknown_soul89 said:
Caddelin said:

 

PS3 is already a commercial failure in every aspect. Sony has already suffered irrecuperable losses with it along the years (just recently Sony managed to have some margin of profit over each unit sold).

That alone would be disastrous. If you take into account the fact that Sony held the virtual monopoly of consoles with PS2, it just aggravates the disappointing sales of PS3. So, EVEN IF it manages to outsell the 360 by the end of this generation (which is not a certainty whatsoever), it is still one of the biggest commercial flops in videogame history.

Oh yeah, before I forget, I own both a 360 AND a PS3. 

 

Whats your point, from a quality stand point is better value then the 360 in almost every way, and everyone has had a console flop even nintendo bottom line is it's a far better choose then the 360 and the only reason the 360 is outselling it is because it was cheap and people are idiots 

Choosing the machine that plays the games a person wants doesn't make them an "idiot". No matter how much you think the PS3 is a better value the fact is it doesn't have Gears of War, Halo, Fable etc. People who want those games chose the console that has them, just like people who want God or War 3 and GT5 chose the PS3, some paid the outragiously overpriced $600 launch price. A person's taste does not make them an "idiot". Have a little repect for other peoples opinions.