They can't and won't, companies do not ship unless the retailer has paid them for the order. Why is this so hard for people to understand lol?

There is a signficant difference between 1 million and 2 million...

You did question the numbers, thats fact.

I never said Sony could ship and ship but they could stuff the channels very easily as I suspect has happened.  Ultimately half a million is a reasonable error margin when discussing these figures might I add also.  Finally, you're entitled to your opinion on the figures and debate them as you please, just try and be objective when dismissing others views.  There is more than just 360 fans being silly in this thread.

I have only pointed out stupidity.

Infact, it is impossible to 'overship' in regards to the manufacturer, unless there is new model coming out.

This whole thread is based on the idea that Sony has sold too many PS3's. Ridiculous.

I dont not question PS3 numbers that much to be honest, 2M on shelves is reasonable enough, though I'd expect it to be a bit less.

I just dislike people putting down shipment figures on this site when they really are the best numbers to go by.

LOL

Everyone in this thread needs to remember that VGcharts has often gotten there numbers wrong for every consol and made adjustments to the sales on numerous occasions. Vgchartz can't get it right all the time. I think people are just picking at this subject because there afraid that if that is what Sony really shipped then there getting dangerously close to overtaking Microsoft if the Xbox 360s isn't able to keep the current lead.

Get real people and stop being sensitive fanboys. At the end of the day its only sales. If numbers like this affect people that much weither they are right or wrong then I feel real sorry for those people. Yous need to go outside for some fresh are and look around you to see whats really important in life.

For what it's worth I think the OP is a lucky individual to not have been moderated for this thread. 

You can never sell too many products, thats not something I've said and I'm not defending the OP for that statement.

I haven't put down shipment figures as being inaccurate so I can only assume you're referring to others.  Whether they're really the "best to go by" is subjective, given all 3 don't use the same metric to pick their shipment figure they really aren't the best necessarily as the data can be over a month out depending on what you class as shipped.  If "shipped" was measured the same by all 3 companies then you could say it was definitive imo.  Note shipped figures are always accurate, the issue is they're not measuring the same thing.

I'm not sure what the big fuss is about.  These numbers reflect shipped numbers up to the end of June which has been when sony has been doing really well.  These numbers seem to confirm what VGchartz has been showing.  We can assume that quarter beginning in July will also reflect current sales trends with the 360 shipping a sizeable number.

VGC is more accurate for the 360 because its sales come from USA and UK. But when it comes to the the rest of the wrld Its a lot harder to track. And the PS3 sells better in most of the world.

So its just like that. I knew thid would happen and so does a few other people who know how these things work.

No you lot are just hating. I have said pure times before it is harder to track the PS3 because it is more popluar outside of the USA and UK. These 2 markets are easier to track. But not the rest. And i have read how you have changed your mind with each post but i dont really care. But think of this

What shop would order more PS3's then they need. yh sony can pressure as much as they want but if the shop does not need them. They will not order. Its that simple

Yes I'm sure it's the case that every console retailer has massively over ordered and they are all sitting there with 100 PS3's in the store room gathering dust. That's much more likely than VGC underestimating HW sales in those markets that are difficult to get accurate data from.

Could also be that Sony have shipped a bunch of 120Gigs that they had kicking around in their warehouses in anticipation of a clearance sale to make way for the 160Gig/320Gig skus.