slowmo said:
BigBoobieHead said:
slowmo said:
BigBoobieHead said:
slowmo said:
BigBoobieHead said:
Blood_Tears said:
BigBoobieHead said:
Yes, some huge MS fan knows more than SONY about how much SONY'S products are selling and how much SONY should be shipping.
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I agree, it's really kinda pathetic too. Sony released there numbers, it is what it is and it doesn't matter if some guy named "Reach" doesn't believe them.
360 is kicking ass right now with the new design and no PS3 fan change that. But PS3 is still doing good and improving and no 360 fan can change that either...
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Yes.
Sony can't just ship and ship and ship if no-one is buying, because the retailers will tell them to piss off.
The 'real' gap is now less than 3m consoles - not bad.
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Why don't you just leave the site if you don't believe the numbers.
If I was ioi I'd ban the lot of you that make petty arguments and go around insulting the numbers that are provided foc on here.
People crying that one console gets more favourable adjustments than another should be perma banned, you're acting like children.
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I was perma banned before for questioning numbers, but if you claim that sometimes VGC numbers aren't questionable then you are in denial.
I understand these numbers are free, so am grateful for weekly data. You CANNOT however act like this site numbers are more accurate than official shipment data.
Every time someone questions VGC numbers it is because:
- They are questionable
- They strive for this site to have the best numbers
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No they aren't the only reasons. You forgot, the numbers don't fit the posters agenda or desires.
There is quite a trend on this site that the ONLY group of fans that constantly question the numbers are Sony fans, thats fact and it's very tiring over time.
I agree that sometimes the shipment data doesn't correlate to VGC numbers but they're not in any way shape or form 2 million out right now, if you think that then you're frankly nuts. I have no issue with people who wish to contribute in some shape or form to sensible discussion regarding the numbers on this site but can you answer the following question. Is saying the site is biased and only ever adjusts the 360 numbers and rarely PS3 numbers either logical or reasonable debate? This site has a huge skew of Sony fans on it, there is no way it could ever be considered biased to the 360 in any way, shape or form.
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They were 1M out before...
Lol, I haven't even questioned VGC numbers much here. I'm just saying that Sony can't just ship and ship however they feel.
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There is a signficant difference between 1 million and 2 million...
You did question the numbers, thats fact.
I never said Sony could ship and ship but they could stuff the channels very easily as I suspect has happened. Ultimately half a million is a reasonable error margin when discussing these figures might I add also. Finally, you're entitled to your opinion on the figures and debate them as you please, just try and be objective when dismissing others views. There is more than just 360 fans being silly in this thread.
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I have only pointed out stupidity.
Infact, it is impossible to 'overship' in regards to the manufacturer, unless there is new model coming out.
This whole thread is based on the idea that Sony has sold too many PS3's. Ridiculous.
I dont not question PS3 numbers that much to be honest, 2M on shelves is reasonable enough, though I'd expect it to be a bit less.
I just dislike people putting down shipment figures on this site when they really are the best numbers to go by.
