Your kinda grasping for straw's, listing one or two sequels on the PS3 and 360 doesn't counteract his argument. It's pretty late into this generation and Miyamoto is only just now talking about a new IP. I don't know about you, but when I buy a new console I expect a lot of new experiences and I don't believe Nintendo have delivered in that regard. 

I start playing Mario Galaxy and it feel's like Mario Sunshine. I'm playing Brawl on the Wiimote and the control's are just disgusting and the charm I got from Smash Bros. 64 is gone. Mario Kart Wii is just more of the same. Then you have all the Gamecube port's which everyone wants me to believe are addition's to the Wii's library, but I think it's just lazy.

People will then start pointing out the Wii franchise, which was great at release. Then we get Wii Fit, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit, Wii Fit Plus, Wii Play, Wii Music, Wii Chess and by now it's just ridiculous. It's become the equivalent of the Guitar Hero Series, Imagine series and Smackdown Vs Raw series, which are now all boring and uninspired.

I don't know, I may be a bitter old man hanging on to my N64 and SNES emulator, but I think the people who don't like what Nintendo have had on offer this gen are completely justified in thinking that the company made better games 10 years ago.

"Your kinda grasping for straw's, listing one or two sequels on the PS3 and 360 doesn't counteract his argument."

Just because he didn't list more doesn't mean there aren't loads more.

Plus new IP is not the same thing as not being a sequel.

Elitism should be classified as an illness.  

It seems those who exhibit elitism show symptoms of hypocrisy, ignorance, bias and erratic behaviour or opinions. 

I'm not saying there aren't sequel's on the HD consoles, I'm just saying that in terms of great new IPs, Nintendo is lacking.

When I think of new IPs this gen, I remember Resistance, Gears of War, Little Big Planet, Infamous, Crackdown, Alan Wake, Uncharted, Flower, Mass Effect, Shadow Complex and Demon's Souls. Then you have the robust Third Party support. The only new IPs that come to mind when I think of the Wii is the Wii series. 

I might remember it's not Nintendo that must do all the things on its console, it's not their obligation to create new IPs or support alone the Wii. The other publishers too are to blame, and for the crap they gave, they are now suffering because people mostly buy Nintendo because they know it's always quality.

Even then, Nintendo is giving a second chance with the 3DS system and the incredible amount of big third party games.

We can't say we want the old Nintendo back and just forget how things turned that generation. Thank them for making such amazing games while nobody want to develop on the Wii.

I have seen this several times in this thread, and it is just bullshit.  Nintendo has brought the most new, fresh ideas to gaming this generation.  No one else is even close.  Just because you personally don't like what they did, does not make it cease to exist.

Pretty much all the Nintendo hate can be summed up as, "Nintendo doesn't cater exclusively to me anymore."

^ I had that sum in my mind as well... I feel sorry for the ones think this way, though. And for the one's who said that the Nintendo now feels differently than the old days, yes, it does feel different. But difference is the way come up interactivity, everything else is the same...

Well it's still not the case that Nintendo hasn't done new IPs. They are just often lower profile. Plus a lot of the new IPs you listed were merely published first party, so going by that we have plenty of new IPs from Nintendo, ranging from Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents, to Xenoblade, to Last Story, to Endless Ocean, to Brain Age, to the Wii series, to Nintendogs, to Trace Memory, to Hotel Dusk, to Glory of Heracles, to Professor Layton.

I usually agree with you but Zelda TWW was awesome. :)

If this guy don't like what Nintendo has done this gen, he must really loathe Microsoft.

I mean, they gave us another Halo, another Banjo Kazooie (wich was bad) another Perfect Dark, and two Fable sequels, and nothing of value when it comes to new IP, they have done even worse than Nintendo this gen when it comes to new IP and a lot worse when it comes to new game concepts.

But I guess I forgot that when a console barely even has first party worth mentioning, like Xbox, Xbox 360, PS1 and PS2, the makers of these consoles are always forgiven of this and are always "incredibly talented and genious" because third parties do everything for them. I'm so tired of that.