if PS3 can not rech wii numbers in summer the less it will do it in christmas

Come on man, you and I both know install base ratio isnt linear to software sales...especially when we talk about console demographics and genres.

why isnt noone buying 120£ arcades or 150£ pound elites in EU?

over here arcades are $150 and elites are 250 and come with 2 games from the holiday bundles thats sounds like a better deal for a new 360 owner than $300 360S with no games at all

unless theres is low demand for the 360 console itself in EU and it just existing owners waiting to upgrade to the newer version

what the hell are you talking a bout 360 has been doing 30ks even before E3

GT5.

No Wii game released in EU is as big as that one (or, all of them combined)

Or at least that's what I think!

While youre probably right in terms of GT being a big deal, i dont think a software spike constitutes a legitimate outselling of the Wii.

Wii hassome big releases near Xmas, Epic Mickey, Donkey kong, Goldeneye 007, and wii could be a bit cheaper by then, so I think Wii will be on top, apart from DS of course.

Oh man, the PS2 is still selling !

Don't forget the real killer app this holiday: Just Dance 2.  Wii Party should be huge too, expect the second coming of Wii Play more or less.  

since E3, people always talking about "360 price cut".

sorry, but how should this price cut have any effect? there is no damn advertising here in germany and i think, in the rest of europe it's the same.

the only people knowing about this price cut are "internet people" like us (which are waiting for the 360 slim, assuming that they plan to buy a 360).

and when i'm looking on our german amazon page, than i only see, that the prices are changing every day (currently the elite costs more than Pre-E3)

so i'm not wondering, that 360 sales haven't changed.