I'm not elitist, I'm just a regular gamer (for that matter, I'm pretty awful at most games for some reason).  There really is no reason anything I'm saying should be seen as offensive or elitist.  Nintendo isn't perfect and they certainly never bat 1000. 

What I stated, though, is really how the last three Nintendo console cycles have run:  The system launches successfully, starts off with a lot of promise and 3rd party support, and then it trickles off very clearly about three years into the cycle.  That's a fact, man.  Sure, the N64 started somewhat slowly (with only 3 launch titles in the US), and there was strong support from 3rd party companies, like Acclaim and Midway.  Towards the end, it was almost nothing.  The GameCube started off far better (third party support-wise, but with lower sales than the N64), but was still pretty dry towards the end, whereas the PA2 and Xbox maintained a strong release line-up. 

My "generalization" isn't just fantasy that comes from no where.  Third party titles sell worse on Nintendo systems, and this is a fact that just hasn't changed in three generations.  They sold better, comparitively on the SNES, but that was the last time.  Blaming developers and publishers and is just stupid, and foolishly ignorant.  It's not their fault, it's the audience.  And the audience on Nintendo systems during the N64 and GC generations was overwhelmingly Nintendo fans, and this time, Nintendo fans and the new Blue Ocean crowd.  During the first two-three years of the GameCube, it received almost all the same games as the Xbox and PS2--it was GameCube owners who consistantly maintained lower sales of those things.  That's not my fault, that's not your fault--that's just Nintendo fans--in general--buying Nintendo games over 3rd party titles.  And let's be real, Blue Ocean gamers don't know what the hell to buy.  I know plenty of those people.  Trust me, my Mom has a Wii--and it doesn't matter how many times I... well, she did listen to me tell her about Muramasa... (but that's only one game).

Who knows?  Maybe this time, things would've been different if the Wii was technically on-par with the X360 and PS3, and the control scheme would've pushed 3rd party titles to greater success on the Wii.  Had it been on the same level, technically, it certainly would've gotten a lot more of the cross-platform titles the Sony and Microsoft got, but by now, we'd have countless streamlined FPS titles, rather than Metroid Prime 3, The Conduit; and hoping four years in hoping that Goldeneye would finally get it right. 

I understand that there are Nintendo fans also buy third party games, but looking at sales, we're obviously in the minority.  Just the way it is.  That's the way it's been for three generations.  And feel free to look over my collection if you like, Nintendo systems easily dominate it.  I'm still surprised how much stuff I have for the Wii (and one of these days, I will get back to NMH2, but I've been too into S&P lately). 

Hey, seriously, I've been called a fanboy a bajillion times.  ... come to think of it, I've been called that for Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony, as well as a hater of Microsoft and Sony. 

I think the analysis of why 3rd party games don't sell well on Nintendo would (and should) make a good conversation--but not when it boils down to retardness like just assuming game developers are morons, and not when it doesn't allow for varying opinions.  The only two sides I tend to see are "developers are idiots" and "Nintendo owners don't buy third party games"--and the second argument is flamed cruelly by Nintendo fans, thus killing any kind of conversation.  I looked over a profile recently that had only Nintendo systems and a PS2 with almost no games.  That person's opinion on Nintendo is most likely blind and should be taken with a grain of salt--and this is the kind of person usually flaming me and treating me like an elitist. 

(Treat response as a generalization, this isn't geared straight at you.)

Sales data seem to confirm what you say, http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&publisher=&console=Wii&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total the only 3rd party title in Wii's Top 10 licenses Mario from Nintendo. Excellent 3rd party games end up selling less than Wii Music. Most probably Nintendo manages to shape the majority of its audience around its 1st party SW offer a lot more deeply than competitors, this gives it an incredible share of SW sales, but it obviously hurts 3rd parties.

I'm not elitist, I'm just a regular gamer (for that matter, I'm pretty awful at most games for some reason).  There really is no reason anything I'm saying should be seen as offensive or elitist.  Nintendo isn't perfect and they certainly never bat 1000. 

What I stated, though, is really how the last three Nintendo console cycles have run:  The system launches successfully, starts off with a lot of promise and 3rd party support, and then it trickles off very clearly about three years into the cycle.  That's a fact, man.  Sure, the N64 started somewhat slowly (with only 3 launch titles in the US), and there was strong support from 3rd party companies, like Acclaim and Midway.  Towards the end, it was almost nothing.  The GameCube started off far better (third party support-wise, but with lower sales than the N64), but was still pretty dry towards the end, whereas the PA2 and Xbox maintained a strong release line-up. 

My "generalization" isn't just fantasy that comes from no where.  Third party titles sell worse on Nintendo systems, and this is a fact that just hasn't changed in three generations.  They sold better, comparitively on the SNES, but that was the last time.  Blaming developers and publishers and is just stupid, and foolishly ignorant.  It's not their fault, it's the audience.  And the audience on Nintendo systems during the N64 and GC generations was overwhelmingly Nintendo fans, and this time, Nintendo fans and the new Blue Ocean crowd.  During the first two-three years of the GameCube, it received almost all the same games as the Xbox and PS2--it was GameCube owners who consistantly maintained lower sales of those things.  That's not my fault, that's not your fault--that's just Nintendo fans--in general--buying Nintendo games over 3rd party titles.  And let's be real, Blue Ocean gamers don't know what the hell to buy.  I know plenty of those people.  Trust me, my Mom has a Wii--and it doesn't matter how many times I... well, she did listen to me tell her about Muramasa... (but that's only one game).

Who knows?  Maybe this time, things would've been different if the Wii was technically on-par with the X360 and PS3, and the control scheme would've pushed 3rd party titles to greater success on the Wii.  Had it been on the same level, technically, it certainly would've gotten a lot more of the cross-platform titles the Sony and Microsoft got, but by now, we'd have countless streamlined FPS titles, rather than Metroid Prime 3, The Conduit; and hoping four years in hoping that Goldeneye would finally get it right. 

I understand that there are Nintendo fans also buy third party games, but looking at sales, we're obviously in the minority.  Just the way it is.  That's the way it's been for three generations.  And feel free to look over my collection if you like, Nintendo systems easily dominate it.  I'm still surprised how much stuff I have for the Wii (and one of these days, I will get back to NMH2, but I've been too into S&P lately). 

Hey, seriously, I've been called a fanboy a bajillion times.  ... come to think of it, I've been called that for Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony, as well as a hater of Microsoft and Sony. 

I think the analysis of why 3rd party games don't sell well on Nintendo would (and should) make a good conversation--but not when it boils down to retardness like just assuming game developers are morons, and not when it doesn't allow for varying opinions.  The only two sides I tend to see are "developers are idiots" and "Nintendo owners don't buy third party games"--and the second argument is flamed cruelly by Nintendo fans, thus killing any kind of conversation.  I looked over a profile recently that had only Nintendo systems and a PS2 with almost no games.  That person's opinion on Nintendo is most likely blind and should be taken with a grain of salt--and this is the kind of person usually flaming me and treating me like an elitist. 

(Treat response as a generalization, this isn't geared straight at you.)

seriously, knock it the hell off.

i am sick and tired of this "elitism" crap. i am a nintendo fan. i freely admit that. i've also done my damnedest to support good third-party efforts on the wii, and i'm not the only one (don't believe me? check my games collection). i wonder just who you think you are to be making such unfair generalizations?

Please do name them. Please.