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c0rd on 10 July 2010
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Alby_da_Wolf said:
routsounmanman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

Sales data seem to confirm what you say, http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&publisher=&console=Wii&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total the only 3rd party title in Wii's Top 10 licenses Mario from Nintendo. Excellent 3rd party games end up selling less than Wii Music. Most probably Nintendo manages to shape the majority of its audience around its 1st party SW offer a lot more deeply than competitors, this gives it an incredible share of SW sales, but it obviously hurts 3rd parties.

Please do name them. Please.

MH3 is the first that springs to my mind, but you can check sales of the best 3rd party games on Wii ordered either by critic and user scores:

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/browse.php?name=&keyword=&console=Wii&region=All&developer=&publisher=&genre=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=Critic Score

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/browse.php?name=&keyword=&console=Wii&region=All&developer=&publisher=&genre=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=User Score

Are you going to tell me that all those that scored high but sold less than Wii Music are actually rubbish and both users and critics were wrong?

Edit: Oh, shit, the stupid new VGC editor cuts away "plus" characters, you'll have to add a plus by hand between Critic and Score and between User and Score in the links to go to the right pages.

Edit 2: actually you'll have to add "plus character" and "Score", because the stupid VGC editor replaces "plus" with a white space, so it cuts away what's after a "plus" in every link. Sorry.

A music game (Wii Music) and a game like MH3 is incomparable. The former has a huge audience to sell to (like, everybody), while the latter appeals to a very small crowd. In fact, why not take a look at how other MH games have done on other platforms yourself?

A game more comparable with Wii Music (a relative failure) would be Just Dance. The game has quite easily outsold Wii Music, and continues to sell, as it is high quality (which is determined by people, not critics).

If 3rd parties can put out this same quality for other games, it wouldn't matter whether Nintendo's name is on the box or not. Resident_Hazard's complaints are based upon the premise that the 3rd party games are on par with Nintendo's, but the reality is they're not. Nearly all of my bought games are from Nintendo, because they're the ones worth keeping (I borrowed / rented many of the 3rd party titles). They also generally appeal to far more people.

Anyway, quite a few high profile 3rd party games are coming to the Wii soon - Goldeneye, Epic Mickey, NBA Jam, then DQX (though much later), and so on. These are games with sales potential, unlike most of the examples people put out (though MH3 was big in Japan).