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There is no such thing as pulp literature.  It's an oxymoron.  Literature is seperate from fiction.  The aims of the two are completely different. 

Pulp fiction is a genre FROM the 20s and 30s.  It's not something that exists today (pulp is now used to refer to pieces of fiction that use similar themes to attract readers).  I explained how it worked above.  It is far more directly comparable to today's M rated games that throw sex and violence at the gamer to entice them than the Nintendo games you listed. DKC and Kirby attract gamers with the very essence of video games -- gameplay.

No one lumps a Nintendo game with Fallout as far as quality goes?  That's funny I found 7 games made by Nintendo who critics found to be of greater quality than the highest rated Fallout game.  Oh, some funny things of note: Nintendo created the top 3 games of all time, 2 of them made this generation.  Fancy that!

That's especially amusing considering the disdain with which many in the video game industry treat the Wii.

No, go look it up.  In their day writers like Jim Thompson, H. P. Lovecraft, and Cornell Woolrich were considered to be pulp fiction writers.  Now, they are considered to be some of the finest literary writers of the twentieth century.

Kirby and DKC haven't attracted most gamers with anything as of late except for the fact that NSMWii managed to sell 14 million copies so Nintendo wants to try to duplicate that success with those titles this year instead of coming up with a new game of substance.

If Ocarina of Time had been a PS1 game, then it wouldn't have scored any higher than FFVII and not as high as MGS.  It only scored so well because there really wasn't anything else on N64.  Pretty much the same thing with the two Galaxy games with the glut of the casual ware on Wii.  Funny thing, GTAIV a game you would probably try to tie in with the pulp games actually has a higher score on PS3 than either Galaxy game.

Nintendo said it themselves at their conference.  They're trying to make bridge games.  So far, however, they have failed to create the type of new core games this gen that they're trying to bridge those gamers to.

Now it's on the 7th page. but honestly this isn't really a big deal.  Many of these threads go 10 pages or more.  I once had a "joke thread" go almost 30 pages and a certain Austrian has had longer ones than that.  How does it happen?  It's because people reply in them.  Why?  Most of these threads tackle a serious issue or issues if you read between the lines and much of the VGChartz community is extremely bright. 

@ infamous  I like Edgar Rice Burroughs better than William S. Burroughs because I prefer it when a writer tells an interesting story like Tarzan.  I really don't care if his school teacher would have given him an A. 

I also prefer Mario to Fallout because I like what I like and the rest of the world doesn't feel exactly the way that you do.  I know that this must be difficult for you to hear, but it's true. 

I will agree with you that H.P Lovecraft is a great writer, but lets face it; it's the same story over and over just like Mario. 

Rough night?  I think that it's time that you ran a brush through your hair.

Well,  If we want to see things from the OP's point of view, Square Enix should stop making Final Fantasy games or Dragon quests since well "they are from the past", why is Sony trying to bring back Twisted Metal??? Metal Gear Solid Franchise is getting quite old as well, Please Capcom!!!!! stop making Street Fighter games and Resident evil they are over 15-20 year old franchises, while we are at it, lets tell the entire comic industry to stop publishing Superman, Batman, Spiderman and Xmen books and let's bash that Damn Hollywood for living in the past and make movies based on those characters.

Look people as much as some hate to admit Nintendo has not one BUT MANY of what the entire industry is dying for... HOUSEHOLD NAMES, they do what they are good at, you think Sony wouldn't have kept Crash Bandicoot if It's games didn't start sucking bad, If Microsoft stays in the video game industry you think we won't see a new Halo 20 years from now?, It's just good business. as long as the games are fun and ENTERTAIN who cares how old they are. I mean dude this Post is as stupid as telling Ford and Chevy that they live in the past for making Mustangs and Camaros. guys really??????

You must not have read much by William S. Burroughs then, because Burroughs told many interesting stories such as Junky, The Man that Taught his Asshole how to Talk, and Cities of the Red Night.

Oh well, I prefer Jak to both Mario and Link because he combines the best qualities of both while inhabiting a much more interesting world than either.

Lovecraft doesn't tell the same story over and over.  The political stance of Lovecraft changed, grew, and altered between his writing of "The Horror at Red Hook" and "The Shadow out of Time" and "The Mountains of Madness".  Just read T.  E.  D,  Klein's introduction in the Arkham House Edition of The Mountain of Madness and Other Tales.  Also, Lovecraft grew from a fear of his alienation and ingrained racial prejudice in such stories as "Arthur Jermyn" and "The Outsider" to an acceptance of various races of and his own alienation in The Shadow Over Innsmouth.

Mario, for his part,  has yet to do much more than hop on platforms and he's still failed to nail the princess in any of his games.  And the latter is true for Link as well.

@Infamous23: All of those writers are the exception rather than the rule. 99% of books that deal with what could be considered pulp material are...well, pulp. 

A great writer makes the difference. What you listed are great writers.

Same with games: they can have pulpy stuff if they want and still be quality...if they're handled by a very quality developer. God of War, for example.

However, 99% of games that appeal to their audience with sensationalist covers, professed "maturity", excessive violence, sexualized dolls of women and so on....are just that, trash.

It's a hell of a tougher sell to get adults to buy games about apes and plumbers.

Games, at their heart, are defined as good or bad, pulpy or artistic, by how good of a game they are. And that's what Nintendo does best. Embracing gameplay and foregoing market appeal, "mature" image, and demographic targeting is a hell of a lot more mature than slapping a hyper-muscled dude and a nice pair of tits and ass on your gun-and-exploding alien infested box art. 

The issue is with your dating of Pulp Fiction rather than what I said.  I couldn't remember the time period, so I trusted yours to be correct.  It actually spanned from the turn of the century to the 50s.  Pulp remains a slang term to describe fiction that appeals to readers through the same themes as pulp fiction.  There is no more pulp fiction as there are no pulp magazines to publish it in.

A writer is completely capable of writing pulp fiction and literature.  I'm not debating that.  Fitzgerald actually wrote a bunch of romantic short stories for magazines that were comparable to the terrible romance novels of today.  He also wrote The Great Gatsby, a fantastic piece of literature.  However, that does not make all his work literature.  Same applies for all the writers you mentioned.  Just because someone writers literature and pulp fiction does not make pulp fiction and literature one and the same.

You do realize that DKC Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn were in far into production well before NSMB Wii was released, right?  It's not like NSMB Wii is the first 2D platformer they've released this generation, either.  Platformers is kind of Nintendo's thing.  We had a Paper Mario and Wario game before NSMB Wii.  This is not some fad they accidentally created and are jumping on.  This is their bread a butter.  Nintendo is THE BEST platformer developer in the world.  What's more, anyone who bothered to watch 15 seconds of either DKC or Kirby would recognize that these games play style is COMPLETELY different from NSMB Wii.  Kirby has never been a big seller, either.  It's a classic with the core Nintendo fanbase, but that's about it.

Finally, your arguments for why OoT and SMG 1 and 2 are rated as the best games of all time (Well above GTA IV, I might add.  I dunno where you got that from.  Click on the link, maybe?) are because of a lack of quality games on the systems they were released on?  Ignoring the incredible amount of classics on the N64 and the solid list of games on the Wii, let's pretend you're right.  So what?  Are game reviewers incapable of playing games on other systems?  Great gameplay is great gameplay, regardless of the system.  Even if I play along with your "They've overrated cause the N64 and the Wii had no games" argument, you can drop them five points and they're still well above 90% according to dozens of reviews.  They remain well recieved games.

However, the N64 and Wii libraries don't suck, and reviewers don't magically overrate games for being on those systems, so your point sucks in general.