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Maynard_Tool said:
BBH said:
Maynard_Tool said:
BBH said:
Sardauk said:
BBH said:

If they sell a bundle with Kinect and Console for $300 - they will be making big losses



You have the figures ?

It's a very popular, educated guess.

Natal is probably being sold at MS's lowest point at the moment (ie Break even point). With a $300 bundle they are losing $150 - plus or minus any profit on the new 360 model.

Also take into account Kinect's huge marketing costs.




Care to disagree with my points? My intellectual superior... 


Oh no, I wouldn't dare to defy your points based on..... well, your total understanding, and superior knowledge about the X360 and kinect well supported with.... well, I can't say proof. But your total (help me out here) yes.... random numbers about it.

 

Oh no, Science help me

W.T.F?

Natal is priced at $150, the new console is priced at $299. That's all you need to know, and a bit of basic Business understanding.

$150 $299 = $449

If they are selling that for $300 - Guess what, chances are they'l be making a loss.



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Kratos_36 said:

Stupid that Microsoft put's the new 360 in the market like that. No time to promote AT ALL. Sony builded up a giant hype to september when it released. Now they released it in a low selling season. Now not many people will buy it , and when the holiday season is here the hype will be over


The flip side of that was that Sony's sales plummeted for July and August as a result of the wait.  I believe NPD had the PS3 once again dipping below the PS2 for those months.  Microsoft understandably would prefer to avoid that.



JPL78 said:
lilc64 said:

lol people have to be joking"microsoft won e3"?? If sony nor nintendo top that underwhelming show 2010 e3 is a flop.They didnt show any games that would make a causal gamer pick kinect over the wii. The only hardcore games they showed were multi platform and gow and halo reach and i had so much interest in fable 3 but that demo was horrible. I mean the espn thing is pretty cool but making all your xbox interface voice activated and motion sensing isn't very amazing. Its like voice recognition on your cell phone, you play around with it in the beginning than you never use it again. While watching the chick do the kick boxing you clearly see how much kinect lagged behind her movements. What really gets me is where was the kinect intergation with HD games like halo reach or alan wake i didnt care about the wii sports.I dont get how people are saying this new xbox 360 at the same price point of the current ps3 will cause trouble, anyone with half a mind can see the ps3 still has more hardware and features in the current console.All this is my option but really?

That could have been video lag.  You know like how music games need you to calibrate your system sometimes because different screens have different lags.

But either way, no one showing it off seemed to have any problems successfully controling the games they were playing.

I wanted kinect to play traditional type games like Oblivion (NPC interaction) or to try on action games. I saw nothing like that, hense I have no interest in Kinect any more.  At this point Sony is probably going to top them with Move because at least it has non-gimicky games like Socom 4.

Fable 3 did look pretty weak, if they were so damned focused on Kinect why didn't they show us how it works in Fable 3?

I disagree. The Fable III trailer looked better than just about any of the trailers I saw for Fable II.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

My hype for Fable 3 dropped. and I will not be purchasing it now. The first Fable is one of the most pathetic pieces of *expletive word here* I have ever played in my entire life. and I will be selling the 2nd one off on eBay.



Lets see, new Xbox cost $299, has 250 gbs, and has Built in WIFI. SOLD! Besides, I needed to get one anyways. Along with a PSP and maybe a Wii, but that's for another time now.



   

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Skeeuk said:

i absolutly cannot belive this.



cannot believe what?



I'm not really here!


BBH said:
Maynard_Tool said:
BBH said:
Maynard_Tool said:
BBH said:
Sardauk said:
BBH said:

If they sell a bundle with Kinect and Console for $300 - they will be making big losses



You have the figures ?

It's a very popular, educated guess.

Natal is probably being sold at MS's lowest point at the moment (ie Break even point). With a $300 bundle they are losing $150 - plus or minus any profit on the new 360 model.

Also take into account Kinect's huge marketing costs.




Care to disagree with my points? My intellectual superior... 


Oh no, I wouldn't dare to defy your points based on..... well, your total understanding, and superior knowledge about the X360 and kinect well supported with.... well, I can't say proof. But your total (help me out here) yes.... random numbers about it.

 

Oh no, Science help me

W.T.F?

Natal is priced at $150, the new console is priced at $299. That's all you need to know, and a bit of basic Business understanding.

$150 $299 = $449

If they are selling that for $300 - Guess what, chances are they'l be making a loss.


Ok.... Kinect is not yet priced, and there's still not X360 Kinect bundle, therefore there's also not a price for it.

 

Like you said, chances are.... what if Kinect is priced at 150, but it only costs 100 to make. They are making a $50 profit there. If they already make a profit on the X360, they wouldn't be losing a penny.

 

Since you don't know how much are they winning/losing on the X360, and you don't know how much kinect development cost, and best of all, you don't even know the price for it, or any bundles for that matter..... you can't make those type of  "educated guesses"



Micro$oftcore!!! FTL



  Unleash The Beast!  

End of 2011 Sales: Wii = 90mil, 360 = 61mil, PS3= 60mil

10 simple things that'd have totally turned this conference around (imo)...

  1. Slim priced at $199
  2. Reasonable price announced for Kinect (ie: $99 w/game)
  3. Core oriented Rare properties with Kinect integration (Conker, Blast Corps, Banjo-Kazooie, etc)
  4. Hulu for 360 
  5. Nomura in shoulder tapping betrayalaton (Versus day-and-date multi)
  6. Mass Effect III announced (console exclusive)
  7. MMO flood (APB, Monster Hunter Frontier, Final Fantasy XIV, etc)
  8. Valve games (where was Portal 2?)
  9. Decent 3rd party games reel (remind people of all the content that IS coming)
  10. Crackdown 2 demo (wtf, where was it?!)


richardhutnik said:
Slimebeast said:
 

Yes, the dance and fitness game looked very good.

The animal game, how did that look like? I missed that!

Terminal, over the top, cutness.  I think it was so cute, it causes the faces of core gamers to melt.

Haha, cool. I am there soon I think (watching the show).

Halo Reach looked fantastic. Gears 3 not so much. But Halo Reach, so much stuff going on at the screen, and everything looks big and epic.