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SaviorX on 05 June 2010
Metallicube said:
baloofarsan said:

I have been holding back buying a Wii  because of the wiimote and the lack of games

There isn't a lack of games on the Wii.. Nor is there a lack of good games. I can name at least a dozen must have AAA games, and dozens more that are good/great games.


I wouldn't mind him Metallicube.

There is no console ever released in history with more than 15 titles that did not have at least 2 games worth playing. Every single console this generation has at least 12 games worth buying, so if baloof honestly believes that there is a lack of games, he is nothing more than a Wii hater.



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Xen on 05 June 2010

@Gnizmo, maxwell:

You have the replies on your walls. I don't want to re-type them here.



astrosmash on 05 June 2010
Xen said:

Lol.

Nice comparison there. While Wii Sports is simply very barebones and is considered a tech demo by some, not only me, you just say something that is as random as the sun being green according to opinion, while its color is clearly non-debatable, unlike WS's existence as a game or a tech demo.

 So what if it has some games built around it? They're all very simple and do not much beyond showing off the wiimote tech in a fun way. Sony's demo at E3 09 was also with a sort of an extremely barebones archery show. Is it a game? No. It's too barebones to be one.

You've asked for constructive, well, here it is.

You won't call it a game because it is a tech demo, but "so what if it has some games" ? Do you not see any contridiction there?

I think of the things that really gets under many Wii owners skins (mine too) is that there really is a great deal of depth to Wii Sports, but that doesn't stop people who have barely (or in some cases never) played it from saying the game has no depth.



Xen on 05 June 2010
astrosmash said:
Xen said:
 

Lol.

Nice comparison there. While Wii Sports is simply very barebones and is considered a tech demo by some, not only me, you just say something that is as random as the sun being green according to opinion, while its color is clearly non-debatable, unlike WS's existence as a game or a tech demo.

 So what if it has some games built around it? They're all very simple and do not much beyond showing off the wiimote tech in a fun way. Sony's demo at E3 09 was also with a sort of an extremely barebones archery show. Is it a game? No. It's too barebones to be one.

You've asked for constructive, well, here it is.

You won't call it a game because it is a tech demo, but "so what if it has some games" ? Do you not see any contridiction there?

I think of the things that really gets under many Wii owners skins (mine too) is that there really is a great deal of depth to Wii Sports, but that doesn't stop people who have barely (or in some cases never) played it from saying the game has no depth.

I don't think there's any depth around it. It's all too rudimentary to be considered a game in my eyes.



MaxwellGT2000 on 05 June 2010
Xen said:
astrosmash said:
Xen said:
 

Lol.

Nice comparison there. While Wii Sports is simply very barebones and is considered a tech demo by some, not only me, you just say something that is as random as the sun being green according to opinion, while its color is clearly non-debatable, unlike WS's existence as a game or a tech demo.

 So what if it has some games built around it? They're all very simple and do not much beyond showing off the wiimote tech in a fun way. Sony's demo at E3 09 was also with a sort of an extremely barebones archery show. Is it a game? No. It's too barebones to be one.

You've asked for constructive, well, here it is.

You won't call it a game because it is a tech demo, but "so what if it has some games" ? Do you not see any contridiction there?

I think of the things that really gets under many Wii owners skins (mine too) is that there really is a great deal of depth to Wii Sports, but that doesn't stop people who have barely (or in some cases never) played it from saying the game has no depth.

I don't think there's any depth around it. It's all too rudimentary to be considered a game in my eyes.

Again that's not an opinion... don't know why that's so hard to understand, you don't get a free ticket to say a game isn't a game based on opinion, cause then it breaks the whole system just like gnizmo pointed out.  It simply doesn't work that way.



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Xen on 05 June 2010
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Xen said:
astrosmash said:
Xen said:
 

Lol.

Nice comparison there. While Wii Sports is simply very barebones and is considered a tech demo by some, not only me, you just say something that is as random as the sun being green according to opinion, while its color is clearly non-debatable, unlike WS's existence as a game or a tech demo.

 So what if it has some games built around it? They're all very simple and do not much beyond showing off the wiimote tech in a fun way. Sony's demo at E3 09 was also with a sort of an extremely barebones archery show. Is it a game? No. It's too barebones to be one.

You've asked for constructive, well, here it is.

You won't call it a game because it is a tech demo, but "so what if it has some games" ? Do you not see any contridiction there?

I think of the things that really gets under many Wii owners skins (mine too) is that there really is a great deal of depth to Wii Sports, but that doesn't stop people who have barely (or in some cases never) played it from saying the game has no depth.

I don't think there's any depth around it. It's all too rudimentary to be considered a game in my eyes.

Again that's not an opinion... don't know why that's so hard to understand, you don't get a free ticket to say a game isn't a game based on opinion, cause then it breaks the whole system just like gnizmo pointed out.  It simply doesn't work that way.

How is that not an opinion? Explain.



MaxwellGT2000 on 05 June 2010
Xen said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Xen said:
astrosmash said:
Xen said:
 

Lol.

Nice comparison there. While Wii Sports is simply very barebones and is considered a tech demo by some, not only me, you just say something that is as random as the sun being green according to opinion, while its color is clearly non-debatable, unlike WS's existence as a game or a tech demo.

 So what if it has some games built around it? They're all very simple and do not much beyond showing off the wiimote tech in a fun way. Sony's demo at E3 09 was also with a sort of an extremely barebones archery show. Is it a game? No. It's too barebones to be one.

You've asked for constructive, well, here it is.

You won't call it a game because it is a tech demo, but "so what if it has some games" ? Do you not see any contridiction there?

I think of the things that really gets under many Wii owners skins (mine too) is that there really is a great deal of depth to Wii Sports, but that doesn't stop people who have barely (or in some cases never) played it from saying the game has no depth.

I don't think there's any depth around it. It's all too rudimentary to be considered a game in my eyes.

Again that's not an opinion... don't know why that's so hard to understand, you don't get a free ticket to say a game isn't a game based on opinion, cause then it breaks the whole system just like gnizmo pointed out.  It simply doesn't work that way.

How is that not an opinion? Explain.


Because in this world we have things called dictionaries that are filled with definitions that define the things around us, we have these defined objects so we can describe things, a dog isn't a cat, a fish isn't a cat, a cat is a cat, that's all based on characteristics set in the definition

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3455697

If you don't adhere to these definitions then the whole system breaks, having rules for discussion becomes a moot point, therefore you're expected to have a basic understanding of definitions to have logical discussion and debate

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3455711

So yes calling something it's not is not opinion, the world is defined, calling something what it's not isn't opinion it's just flat out wrong, which is why we have education and so on and so forth cause we want to learn about the world, I could go on and on about this but I hope this post can actually get you to understand.



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Xen on 05 June 2010
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Xen said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Xen said:
astrosmash said:
Xen said:
 

Lol.

Nice comparison there. While Wii Sports is simply very barebones and is considered a tech demo by some, not only me, you just say something that is as random as the sun being green according to opinion, while its color is clearly non-debatable, unlike WS's existence as a game or a tech demo.

 So what if it has some games built around it? They're all very simple and do not much beyond showing off the wiimote tech in a fun way. Sony's demo at E3 09 was also with a sort of an extremely barebones archery show. Is it a game? No. It's too barebones to be one.

You've asked for constructive, well, here it is.

You won't call it a game because it is a tech demo, but "so what if it has some games" ? Do you not see any contridiction there?

I think of the things that really gets under many Wii owners skins (mine too) is that there really is a great deal of depth to Wii Sports, but that doesn't stop people who have barely (or in some cases never) played it from saying the game has no depth.

I don't think there's any depth around it. It's all too rudimentary to be considered a game in my eyes.

Again that's not an opinion... don't know why that's so hard to understand, you don't get a free ticket to say a game isn't a game based on opinion, cause then it breaks the whole system just like gnizmo pointed out.  It simply doesn't work that way.

How is that not an opinion? Explain.


Because in this world we have things called dictionaries that are filled with definitions that define the things around us, we have these defined objects so we can describe things, a dog isn't a cat, a fish isn't a cat, a cat is a cat, that's all based on characteristics set in the definition

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3455697

If you don't adhere to these definitions then the whole system breaks, having rules for discussion becomes a moot point, therefore you're expected to have a basic understanding of definitions to have logical discussion and debate

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3455711

So yes calling something it's not is not opinion, the world is defined, calling something what it's not isn't opinion it's just flat out wrong, which is why we have education and so on and so forth cause we want to learn about the world, I could go on and on about this but I hope this post can actually get you to understand.

A large post pointing out how is it that I'm wrong, but you didn't explain how Wii Sports is deep. It lacks career modes, deep settings, and other things that define sports games... how is that not an opinion regarding its depth? I can understand what you're getting at with definitions (and agree to some extent), but the depth statement is definitely an opinion.



MaxwellGT2000 on 05 June 2010
Xen said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Xen said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Xen said:
astrosmash said:
Xen said:
 

Lol.

Nice comparison there. While Wii Sports is simply very barebones and is considered a tech demo by some, not only me, you just say something that is as random as the sun being green according to opinion, while its color is clearly non-debatable, unlike WS's existence as a game or a tech demo.

 So what if it has some games built around it? They're all very simple and do not much beyond showing off the wiimote tech in a fun way. Sony's demo at E3 09 was also with a sort of an extremely barebones archery show. Is it a game? No. It's too barebones to be one.

You've asked for constructive, well, here it is.

You won't call it a game because it is a tech demo, but "so what if it has some games" ? Do you not see any contridiction there?

I think of the things that really gets under many Wii owners skins (mine too) is that there really is a great deal of depth to Wii Sports, but that doesn't stop people who have barely (or in some cases never) played it from saying the game has no depth.

I don't think there's any depth around it. It's all too rudimentary to be considered a game in my eyes.

Again that's not an opinion... don't know why that's so hard to understand, you don't get a free ticket to say a game isn't a game based on opinion, cause then it breaks the whole system just like gnizmo pointed out.  It simply doesn't work that way.

How is that not an opinion? Explain.


Because in this world we have things called dictionaries that are filled with definitions that define the things around us, we have these defined objects so we can describe things, a dog isn't a cat, a fish isn't a cat, a cat is a cat, that's all based on characteristics set in the definition

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3455697

If you don't adhere to these definitions then the whole system breaks, having rules for discussion becomes a moot point, therefore you're expected to have a basic understanding of definitions to have logical discussion and debate

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3455711

So yes calling something it's not is not opinion, the world is defined, calling something what it's not isn't opinion it's just flat out wrong, which is why we have education and so on and so forth cause we want to learn about the world, I could go on and on about this but I hope this post can actually get you to understand.

A large post pointing out how is it that I'm wrong, but you didn't explain how Wii Sports is deep. It lacks career modes, deep settings, and other things that define sports games... how is that not an opinion regarding its depth? I can understand what you're getting at with definitions (and agree to some extent), but the depth statement is definitely an opinion.


Depth is not a defining point of what makes a game a game as the definition I gave you is what makes a game a game, so depth is not even a factor in if a game is a game or not.  Now if you wanted to debate if Wii Sports has as much depth as other sports titles, that is an actual point that could be debated and discussed.



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iWarMachine on 05 June 2010

LOL, do you really think that Nintendo will win just because of 2 EXPECTED annnouncements???

Legend Of Zelda Wii and Nintendo 3DS??? Are you insane???

Microsoft has Natal, Gears 3, Halo: Reach, and probably a lot of surprises

Sony has Move, 3D, Gran Turismo 5, SOCOM 4, Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, InFAMOUS 2, and lots of surprises (Probably PSP2) .

 

And you really think that Nintendo can compete against both conferences?



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