An Israeli soldier lieing in a pool of his own blood too, eh?  I  REALLY can't see people upset with this now... except just to be mad at Israel.

I am so freaking upset. Reuters doing such dirty deeds. The whole world is against Israel.

That site u got it from, what is that?

It's one of the more prominent self-styled "anti-jihad" blogs ever since 9/11. They've got a real knack for exposing media bullshit and have done some pretty interesting work, especially around the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Check it out (if you think you won't explode from rage)!

Yeah I will explode but... How do i find their stuff on Israeli-Lebanon war? The site seems a lil hard to navigate.

Here you go.

This one in particular is good for a laugh. It was so painfully obvious, but Reuters stood by it for a long time.

Ok, it took two days to read everything written here (busy with exams) and it is time for me to say something. And I won't really delve into the topic of the thread as much as I will into the basics.

First thing, I am Palestinian. I live in the West Bank and I know what it is like to live here. I also have many Israeli friends, and even more Jewish friends (there's a difference).

I noticed that everyone on this thread is either black or white as in they hate Israel or love them and make anything they do completely justified and alright.

I would also love to clearify that I despise Hamas and I despise Fateh.. they're both equally bad, corrupted people and in Hamas' case, they use Islam as a wrapper for everything they do which is completely wrong. As a Muslim, I can tell you that their actions have nothing to do with what our religion teaches us. Actually, I know enough about Islam, Christiniaty and Judaism to tell you that Islam and Judaism are more similar than you think!

And I would love if some of the people who wrote in this thread stopped calling us terrorists. You obviously don't know all the facts and haven't done your homework properly. And for the guy who commented on how all the videos he sees of the people of Gaza always show them as healthy happy people, I can hook you up with a MILLION videos on youtube that suggest otherwise.. that just shows you how controlled the media is, nobody should believe EVERYTHING they hear and this is also true for the topic of this thread.

Now, you should know that I spent two weeks in a peace camp with fellow Palestinians and Israelis in England about three years ago and I was shocked by the things I was told. I was shocked how the Israelis thought that Hamas take kids into mosques and brainwash them into bombing themselves (that's just a myth...), or how convinced they were that their soldiers were treating us well on borders and checkpoints.. I am not going to generalize but the vast majority of soldiers (either males or females) that work on checkpoints cannot get any meaner. And while we are on the topic of checkpoints, can you tell me why there's a checkpoint between Ramallah and Bethlehem which are both Palestinian territories with no Israeli territories in-between? What is the point of spending two hours on a checkpoint that serves no purpose but to make people's lives harder?

I do not exactly hate Israel, I owe my Israeli friends for that. I have managed to see a more humane side of Israel, but I really demand people to look more into it. Israel is not the best thing ever like some of you claim, but it's not exactly the worst thing ever either.. after all, everything they do is for the good of their own people. And I believe that the Holocaust happened, and that Jews truly suffered.. but we are suffering too, everyone's suffering actually.. but at the end of the day, Israel has better education, has better paying wages (and I can go on and on) while we barely have any of those things.. they fight with helicopters and destructive planes (don't know the exact names, never been good with weapons) and we fight with Qassam weapons which are btw very weak weapons, have any of you actually seen one explode? Have you seen how small the explosion is? It's not exactly as dangerous as a nuclear bomb like many make it seem. With that said, I am NOT with firing Qassams neither am I with the blockage, the Gaza War last year, the recent Israel raid, my brother getting shot on his way back from school when he was 15 or me being treated rudely when I have done absolutely nothing (once again, not generalizing).

Anyway, I just wrote a bunch of things.. not really sure if it all came together or not, or if it really adds anything to the conversation here but my point is, DO MORE RESEARCH PEOPLE. And this is directed towards EVERYONE, nothing is ever what it seems, especially for those who don't live here.

My mind was actually made upwhen I read about what happened after several days, hence why I was late to the thread. As for information known, I doubt even you have all the facts on how things stand, and are just as stubborn to change your opinion on this.

Furthermore, you neither know what the ship was biilt like, nor how it was built, or really any of that sort. In fact you are now using your lack of information and making your own mind up BEFORE you know how things stand in that area, something you just blamed me of doing. But I guess you can go ahead and speculate as well.

As for your following post, the mob did not go to the commandos, the commandos came to the mob. The commandos were in absolutely no threat up in their helicopter, and they went and invaded an obviously hostile mob of people. Then they wonder why they got hit on the head with metal rods. So no, they had no right to use lethal force whatsoever.

I have more facts then you did... and since then... all of the facts have broke towards my side.

I know plenty about that area.  It's a shitty situation for everbody caused by england.  Doesn't change the fact that Israel did nothing wrong here.

Your just backpeddaling now because you don't want to admit you were wrong.  I mean, did you not notice the fact that the other ships were boarded fine?  It was a six ship floatilla and trouble only happened on one ship.

Your only suggestion now is "they shouldn't of landed" with no actual other suggestion on how to stop the ship.

Just admit you were wrong.   Or how would you have disabled the ship?

Also, as for the condition of the ships... I actually DO know.  They were purchased cheap because of their condition.

By "that area" I actually meant the ship's condition and apparent ability to be sunk by a breeze.

Also, just because they landed just fine on the other boats, I am sure that the people here saw the the ones on this particular boat were not as friendly as the ones on the other boat. I imagine that all the "weapons" everyone keeps quoting were not all that hard to see. The whole "others were boarded fine and the IDF didn't see this comning" is a very poor argument.  What did the IDF think those rods were for? Welcome parade?

The operatoin was a huge mistake. You don't board a ship full of painfully obvious rioters who mean you harm, and then expect them to surrender peacefully just like that? Hell, if Ididn't know any better I'd say  they were pulling the same schtick the flotilla was pulling. Throw a few people in the lion's mouth, then wait for the excuse to shoot. Then again, nowing how Israel reacts this could have some turth to it as well.

FInally, I don't have any better idea on how to handle this because I studied computers, not military tactics. However I expect people who have studied military tactics to perform far above what was displayed here, and not come up with something your average person can come up with.