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mirgro on 07 June 2010
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Kasz216 said:
mirgro said:
Kasz216 said:

Going by the facts which you don't even know apparently.

It sounds like you made up your mind BEFORE you knew the facts and now are simply unwilling to change your opinion.

Also, well YES that is the only way they could of stopped the ship some other way.

Without risking the deaths of EVERYBODY anyway.   IF they attacked the rudders or Engines even the littlest wave could of cause them to accidently sink the damn thing.  Heck it might not even take that.  These kind of ships used for floatillia's are usually weak out of date ships that haven't been in regular service or matience for years.  

I guess if you think it'd be a better option to possibly kill EVERBODY.  That's fine.

 

Nevermind the fact that you then have to send people on the ship anyway to either evacuate the people or to hook up a towing line.

My mind was actually made upwhen I read about what happened after several days, hence why I was late to the thread. As for information known, I doubt even you have all the facts on how things stand, and are just as stubborn to change your opinion on this.

Furthermore, you neither know what the ship was biilt like, nor how it was built, or really any of that sort. In fact you are now using your lack of information and making your own mind up BEFORE you know how things stand in that area, something you just blamed me of doing. But I guess you can go ahead and speculate as well.

As for your following post, the mob did not go to the commandos, the commandos came to the mob. The commandos were in absolutely no threat up in their helicopter, and they went and invaded an obviously hostile mob of people. Then they wonder why they got hit on the head with metal rods. So no, they had no right to use lethal force whatsoever.

I have more facts then you did... and since then... all of the facts have broke towards my side.

I know plenty about that area.  It's a shitty situation for everbody caused by england.  Doesn't change the fact that Israel did nothing wrong here.

Your just backpeddaling now because you don't want to admit you were wrong.  I mean, did you not notice the fact that the other ships were boarded fine?  It was a six ship floatilla and trouble only happened on one ship.

Your only suggestion now is "they shouldn't of landed" with no actual other suggestion on how to stop the ship.

Just admit you were wrong.   Or how would you have disabled the ship?


By "that area" I actually meant the ship's condition and apparent ability to be sunk by a breeze.

Also, just because they landed just fine on the other boats, I am sure that the people here saw the the ones on this particular boat were not as friendly as the ones on the other boat. I imagine that all the "weapons" everyone keeps quoting were not all that hard to see. The whole "others were boarded fine and the IDF didn't see this comning" is a very poor argument.  What did the IDF think those rods were for? Welcome parade?

The operatoin was a huge mistake. You don't board a ship full of painfully obvious rioters who mean you harm, and then expect them to surrender peacefully just like that? Hell, if Ididn't know any better I'd say  they were pulling the same schtick the flotilla was pulling. Throw a few people in the lion's mouth, then wait for the excuse to shoot. Then again, nowing how Israel reacts this could have some turth to it as well.

FInally, I don't have any better idea on how to handle this because I studied computers, not military tactics. However I expect people who have studied military tactics to perform far above what was displayed here, and not come up with something your average person can come up with.