| Michael-5 said: I'm so full of it? Please don't be insulting, I am making a very logical and valid arguement. I never said "Barely 30,000", I said roughly 30,000 a week. Don't put words into my mouth, there is a difference. I have been keeping track of PS3 vs 360 sales on a weekly basis since at least August 2009. Since January I have noticed the PS3 has been leading in sales over the 360 between 20,000 to 50,000 units a week. Depending heavily on game releases. To the end of May, PS3 has sold 4 million units worldwide, 360 has sold 3 million units worldwide (according to VGChartz YTD's, as of now). That is a period of 5 months to account for a 1 million sales difference. Thats 22 weeks roughly, and 1 million divided by 22 is 45,000. More then 30,000, however you have to account the strong Spring lineup PS3 had over the 360, specifically God of War 3. Okay 30,000 is a bit off, 40,000 is a more reasonable estimate, but I did say roughly, and I in all honesty feel that this difference will diminish during fall 2010. On Gametrailers (and I think in a news article somewhere on GT, but also from Michael Patchner), Michael Patchner stated that the new model PS3's give Sony a $30 profit at the $300 price margin. Thats 10%, which is small, Nintendo is probably making over $100 per console, and 360 is somewhere inbetween. Microsoft can afford another price drop, and still make profit on each system sold. It may only be $5 profit, or 1 penny, but still. If Sony made a price cut, they would lose money per console, just as they have been doing almost during the entire PS3 lifetime. As for Sony's Prenium PSN service, Microsoft is also likely to release a Platnium service pack for XBL, and how is this relevant to a consoles sales?? Also, Every system gets most of it's sales at the $199 price point. Oh man, SHOW ME WHERE YOU FOUND THIS OUT!! Michael Patchner stated that Microsoft sells about 80% of it's units at the medium range price point ($299), and that only about 10% buy the $199 arcade model, and 10% buyt the $399 Elite model. If most consoles get their sales at the $199 point, then this shouldn't be happening! However it is, so...your statement is false. I'm not trying to insilt you, but you seem to be making up your arguements. PS3 is a great console, I have one, and a 360. I just don't think the PS3 will become number 2 in sales. I beleive this because Microsoft is a corperate demon. They will not allow PS3's console to outsell the 360, even if it means giving away 360 consoles. Microsoft has the money to do this, and it is crutial for their system to remain in position number 2 to keep up their reputation for the next generation of consoles. MGS4 on 360 was a rumor created in forums, a 360 Slim is a media originated rumor, and unlike the MGS4-360 rumor, it has evidence to back it up. Please don't compare the two, as they have a completly different background. You can however compare the 360 Slim rumour to the FFXIII and FFXIII Versus being multi console rumors as those were originated in the media, and hang on...FFXIII is on 360 too right?? Microsoft will definatly do some sort of price cut, and Natal package. Like I said they are a corporate demon. They will do anything to stay ontop, and they have room for a price cut. I feel they will, after all they are trying to attract Wii gamers to the Natal. As for Japan/Europe >>>> Americas, first of all 23 million/40 million 360's are sold in Americas, so for 360, that is not the case. Also in many European, and asian countries, 360 outsells the PS3. Countries like Britain and Korea (On VgChartz, just compare hardware total and look on the right). Now in Japan, PS3 has sold 5.2 million units, and 360 has sold 1.3 million, where DS is over 30 million. Japan is a dominatly handheld market, it doesn't really affect PS3/360 sales much. So for PS3, Europe > Americas > Japan, but for 360 Americas > Europe and Japan combined. The important thing is total sales, not just regional. In europe, both consoles have sold roughly the same number of total units, and if Microsoft blows everyone away this fall (which I think they will), that could change. Another point PS3/360 regional totals - Japan is 6.5 million, Europe is 31.5 million, Americas is 37.2 million. Europe Japan is 38 million, just above the americas total. I think Microsoft holding American popularity, especially at a ratio of 1.75 to 1 is a very important factor. With the Natal, price cut, and selection of great games comming out, I think Microsoft will pull itself out of this slump. It may not, but I have given numerous valid arguements supporting my claim, your just bashing me because my points oppose your feelings. |
Ok, lets start with your first few paragraphs
I see you did your homework, and as you can see, PS3 is outselling xbox by more than just 30k a week,so there is no need to argue here. And yes, the gap will change in holiday '10, the question is, for Sony's favour or MS's favour. Only time will tell.
And that interview was before 40mm chips came out 1 month ago. These new chips will probably reduce manufacturing costs even more and make even more money for Sony which MAY translates into a price drop in the future. And NINTENDO IS MAKING 100$ PER CONSOLE?????????????? Where the hell did you read that? So Wii manufacturing cost is only 100$???? And PSN profits are not irelevant to console sales but they are relevant to Sony on starting making money on SCEI once again,which will enable Sony to cut the price.
Also, PS1,PS2, (and most likely wii) all sold most units when they were 199$.Go do a little research. And the other guy in thread posted the graph where it shows that Arcade (199$) is outselling Elite (299$) in US.
MGS4 rumor also had tons of articles on internet and some leaked photos. Just like xbox slim and PS3 slim.
Your problem is that you think that MS is gonna be the only one who is gonna do some working in holiday '10 and that their competitors will do nothing. Gran Turismo 5 will probably outsell every xbox game in holiday '10 except MAYBE Halo Reach.
As for your last couple of paragraphs, you completly misunderstood my point. I said that Europe and Japan together are bigger markets than US. That means that more video game consoles are sold there then in US. Oh wait, you actually proved my point in your 10th paragraph so there no need to argue. Thanks.
