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c0rd said:
Barozi said:

I'm pretty sure GTA IV had a lot of used sales as well as Crackdown for example. None of those games are short or have zero replayability.

And I'm VERY sure other high selling games including CoD and Mario Kart for example have tons of used sales as well.

Playing videogames is one of the CHEAPEST way to get yourself entertained and people still bitch about their prices. very sad.

GTA IV didn't have short replayability in your opinion, but obviously not to many others. It may not even be a game worth playing through once, to people who were disappointed by the game. Losing sales to used games is the price you pay for dissatisfied customers.

Games like CoD and Mario Kart probably do have many used sales, due to the games' sheer popularity. However, these are far outnumbered by people who actually want to keep the games. That's why they're still selling so strongly to this day. Look at how the games have held their value (on ebay, half.com or other sites) - Mario Kart is still around $35-40 used (only $5-10 less than Amazon), while GTA IV (360) is down to about $10.

If you look at it this way, you'll notice the "bad" games (in gamers' perspectives) are the ones that get hurt by used sales, because so many new buyers wanted to get rid of their copy in order to buy another game, hopefully one worth keeping. Some exceptions are how games like CoD drop in value when their sequels replace them, because people no longer need of the previous game. They also drop in value (as do other multiplayer games like Gears) due to things like map packs being tied to online accounts, which later come with new copies (Game of the Year editions).

As a customer, this is more to my liking. It punishes the companies that pump out sequels (killing off older CoD's), games that are bad / low replayability / don't meet expectations (GTA IV), because the used games market adjusts its price to compensate for these things.

Instead of sucking up and spoon-feeding money to all of these developers (no matter how crappy the games may be), why not make them fight for your money? These losses will eventually drive them to make better games, to creativity, so we'll benefit in the end. (edit: I guess this is assuming you agree with what the market decides)

 

And it's still a fact that the used sales market is huge and that you can get all kinds of games there, whether a game is good or not.

In the end even if you can decide which developer is worth supporting, there will always be people how do the complete opposite.



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All this does is make resort to piracy.
Don't stop pissing people off.



This is like a car manufacturer making you buy a new $100 key to start the used car you just bought. It's simply wrong.



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I always thought buying games used was stupid anyway. Most of the time it's only a $3-5 savings. So I guess if you buy a game used, now, you are paying more than buying new! (unless you don't need the multiplayer that is).



I like this idea.



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Going after a business like Gamestop that sells slightly used games for $55 is one thing, but I don't want to feel, as a consumer, that renting or buying a game used is putting me right in the middle of a crossfire between the publishers and businesses like Gamestop.



I assume this will apply to lending games to friends too.

Keep it up Sony, you're doing great.



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does it effect Piracy? thats a bigger issue.



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well makes sense from their point of view. i mean its the same as piracy as far as they see in sales.

one person buys game from them and multiple people play that one game.

though used sales have been around since FOREVER, what makes video game industries so special that they aren't subject to have them? there are WAY too many games out there that are total shitty quick thrown together for cash in's, year after year, port after port, next years itteration and so on.

do they wonder why this used business and renting is so big. someone mentioned a used car. yea well i can bet those new cars last for long than a new one coming out and yours being outdated in less than a year. and when i say that i mean say call of duty 6 making call of duty 5 have no value at all. no one playing it anymore online which is basically its only selilng point. it would be like if in a year the car couldnt' drive on the highway anymore, was restricted to local roads only.



Like others in this thread, I hope that publishers see bad sales for all games with this policy in place. Like I asked in other threads about similar topics, won't the used market just adjust for this? I think the resale value of games with this policy is just going to fall, making the games even cheaper, and thus more attractive to used buyers. Maybe the publishers are counting on the lower resale value of these games to keep people from thinking that it is worth it to sell them. That could keep the used supply of these games lower than normal.



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