Congratualtions on a troll post. You entirely ignored what I said and just criticised my view while avoiding all specifics.

When did I say the point of a game wasn't to provide fun? Fact is some do it better than others, and once your expectations of said fun have been raised, how can you go back? Like put someone on GT 4, then give them GT1 - which are they going to enjoy more? A hardcore gamer is going to want a challenge, and a basic 2D game which pits you against 4 enemies at a time, maybe 6, isn't going to provide the same challenge as one which puts you against 20 on a 3D axis is it?

The fact you don't want to analysis someone's opinion is worrying - pro tip for the future, don't do an analytical subject.

The answer to your friend should be a clear and loud NO.

The worst gamers are those who just pretend to seek advice.

Unexperienced gamers are allowed to ask any question about a system, but experienced gamers who don't make their mind up on their own and ask others if a system "now" (i.e. finally) has enough titles available to make it a worthwhile purchase for them should never buy said system in the first place. It just shows that they never cared enough about the system to check the games library on their own.

From the way you described this guy in this thread there seems to be a high chance that once he bought a Wii it will soon - attention - "collect dust" (the most preferred term of those Wii owners who act as if they had been forced by obscure, magic powers to buy this strange system) and that he'll continue to secretly or openly dislike the system even after he bought it.

Congratulations on once again repeating what I've been saying for multiple posts.  And I hardly criticized you in comparison to the condescending tone and veiled insults you've been spewing since you came into this thread.  Every post you've made has had a snub towards anyone who showed a different opinion than you.  Not to mention constantly trying to say the Wii (and anyone who likes it) is inferior and not hardcore.

And the more you talk, the more it just proves you either didn't play Muramasa or you just are trying to come up with whatever left field reason to put it down because its 'inferior'.  'Pro tip'.  There's plenty of areas in Muramasa where you fight upwards of 20 enemies at one time.  Including an area at the end of the game where you have to fight every enemy in the game in succession without stopping.  But considering you think its an 'inferior 2D game', you'll try to come up with some other reason God of War 3 is superior in your next post.

And I'd like to point out that at this time I've still never said God of War 3 is inferior to Muramasa.  You're just the one on this crusade to put down Wii games and make out 2D games and Wii games.  Which, I would like to remind you, you've already said that you would probably find God of War 3 outdated down the road in a similar fashion so I don't see your motivation.

The wii isn't hardcore - Nintendo even say so....So take that up with them, not me. And I never said the wii wasn't good, far from it (that's you being paranoid), I said it's not for hardcore gamers, which it isn't.

Fighting on a 2D axis is far, far easier than on a 3D one. Simple as that. My point is the wii isn't for the hardcore. What the **** is your point?

That just because you state something as a fact, doesn't make it a fact.  Yet you keep trying to drive the point home and get defensive (see: condescending and combative) whenever someone doesn't agree with you or submit.  You even did it in this post.

I'm willing to agree to disagree, but not when someone is insulting my intelligence or trying to claim something as a fact when its not.  And its not a fact that 'Fighting on a 2D axis is easier than a 3D one'.  Take for example Okami vs Muramasa.  Or Gears of War vs Metal Slug.  Or Wind Waker vs Rocket Knight Adventure.  Guess which ones you will die more on?

Let's see. In 3D you have 3 dimensions to consider when fighting, giving you and the enenmy more angles of attacks.
On a 2D plane you have far, far less angles to worry about as you are just fighting along an X and Z axis. It's simple math.

How about you compare games that are actually similar? Compare Muramasa to Bayonetta and DMC. How about the original Prince of Persia to the Sands of Time? And if you want to talk about dying, just have a play of Mirrors Edge.
And for the finale, compare Tekken 3 to Soul Caliber.

For the hardcore, 2D is not enough of a challenge as it once was.

More dimensions doesn't mean more challenge and more challenge doesn't mean more quality or more sales.  2-D shooters are always more difficult than 3-D shooters, and 2-D platformers are always more difficult than 3-D platformers.  You're confusing "less accessible" with "more challenging."  2-D games require much more precision and timing in movement.  3-D games can't do "bullet hell."

Wii has the best-selling fighter of all time and the best-selling racer of all time.  And yes I was talking about the interface half the time.  New original interfaces is the whole point of the Wii.  You can use a Wii remote sideways, you can swing it around, you can use the nunchuck for analog controls or swinging, you can tilt the controller, you can use the IR pointer, you can use a wheel or a gun attachment, you can balance on a board.  The Wii's larger variety of controllers and control schemes means it has a larger variety of genres, which means it has a larger variety of games.

And of course I have played several games outside of the Wii's library.  Why would you assume I haven't?  I've played games on every console every generation, going back to maybe the weird 32-bit era that had 10 or more consoles.  I've even played Gears of War, and it's not even half as violent as MadWorld, Manhunt 2, or No More Heroes 2.  It's like comparing a PG-13 sci-fi action movie with something like Saw or Hostel.  In MadWorld the entire game is murdering and torturing enemies, not just to get them out of your way, but for style points.  In No More Heroes 2 blood covers the whole screen almost every minute.  In Manhunt 2 you torture people's testicles, cut their heads off, torture/mutilate/dismember them, and it's so disgusting that even your character in the game VOMITS after murdering somebody in a gruesome fashion.  Yes Manhunt 2 is multiplatform, but it's not on the PS3 or 360.  It's on the Wii, PS2, PSP, and PC, and the Wii version was made by its own team, as the lead version.  The controls on the Wii version are what got all 4 versions an AO rating so it had to get censored.  Gears of War wasn't rated AO, and Gears of War didn't have to censor itself to actually get an M rating so it could be released.  In Gears of War you don't tie up an alien and torture its nuts, and then vomit.  I have played Gears of War, Manhunt 2, MadWorld, and No More Heroes 2.  Have you?

And yes Wii has the most classic games.  The Virtual Console is up to 355 games in North America, and 559 in Japan.

I've played God of War 1 and 2, and I didn't like them.  I didn't like the 3rd-person hack and slash controls, the super-emo 1-dimensional protagonist with a ridiculous unbelievable motive that I can't really support, or the QTEs during the boss fights.  No, I haven't played God of War 3, but I watched somebody play it for about 10 minutes at E3 and another 10 minutes at GDC.  It looked like it was a bigger, better, badass version of something I didn't enjoy to begin with.  And the definition of "emo" is probably spending 3 whole video games crying about your family and then trying to get revenge because you can't grow up and move on.  Kratos is a whiny little baby.

The games you just tried to make comparisons to aren't similar at all...  My games might not have been competely the same, but they were much closer than yours.  Muramasa and Okami are both inspired by Japanese mythology and have common themes and enemies.  Gears of War and Metal Slug are both 'gritty' and over the top shooters with abstract realism that don't take themselves seriously.  And Wind Waker and Rocket Knight Adventures are both cartoonish action games with characters who use swords.  However, they were contrasting examples that clearly show three 2D games that are harder than three 3D games.  Where you had previously stated '2D gaming is far far easier than 3D'.  You can't provide such an absolute statement.  They are so easy to be proven wrong.

And yet again, you made a statement trying to pass it off as a fact, when clearly you have people telling you the opposite.

By the way, Tekken 3 and Soul Calibur are both 3D.

If your friend likes RPG's then he should definitely try Sakura Wars! I haven't had so much fun with an RPG in ages!

Oh, and Muramasa is great if you want a challenging game with wonderful visuals and superb gameplay.

If he's truly hardcore he should try Trauma Center as well! But only if he's TRULY hardcore!

Super Mario World is a much more challenging (And fun IMO) game than Super Mario Galaxy. I guess your entire argument about 3D and tech meaning more challenge just collapsed.