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Kantor said:
Why would America want tightened domestic security? They had plenty of oil coming in already, they didn't really care about the Middle East (come on, they gave Afghanistan weapons when the Soviet Union attacked) until 9/11. There's another reason for the Iraq invasion- revenge. Absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. They could have easily invaded without 9/11- they'd have been wrong to invade, but that's already the case. Saddam was found in a hole in the ground in his own country which was occupied by American forces. Bin Laden could be anywhere in the Middle East, and still has many supporters in the area. So basically, you're saying America staged 9/11 because they wanted to tighten security because some crazy satanist from 300 years ago wants to rule the world. Doesn't this sound somewhat ludicrous? Isn't it much more likely that a group of religious extremists wanted to hurt the Christian world? |
Actually the real "Illuminati" if they exist wouldn't be Satanists but more likely Christian Deists.
Since the "Masons" and all the other crap they were supposed to descend from were basically Deists... who had Christian leanings.
Deists being people who didn't believe in EVERYTHING religion said because they didn't like that an all powerful god would trust soley in a book. As such they believed through logic and science they would best be able to understand the creator. Which they assumed to be the Christian god.

Also, ever think Masonic signs are in boatloads of Video Games mostly because they look cool as hell?
I mean how many freaking Animes have Christian Crosses and all kinds of crap even though almost nobody in Japan is a Christian. Is it some kind of christian conspiracy to take over Japan?

| Severance said: @ Assassin's Creed "in this game you travel back in time and change - rewrite history.. " uh... no ? thats not Ass Creed. |
Ass Creed is a different game I believe.
Regardless, it's going to take a lot more than the words "New World Order' to establish a link to the illuminati :P The phrase was coined in 1940 by H G Wells - more than 50 years before paranoid people decided to steal the phrase. I could claim that there is a secret society who believe in the creation of a large cheese pizza, and from then on anyone who orders a large cheese pizza is confirming that this secret society exists. Fact is, New World Order is simply used to refer to ANY political or economic change that effects the whole world.
Oh, and you can't just put "don't criticise my ridiculous opinions" in your post and expect people not to criticise your ridiculous opinions
can you please explain, why George Bush could not even state exactly how heard the news, or in school, or from his associate, can you please explain that ?????
Kasz216 said:
Actually the real "Illuminati" if they exist wouldn't be Satanists but more likely Christian Deists. Since the "Masons" and all the other crap they were supposed to descend from were basically Deists... who had Christian leanings. Deists being people who didn't believe in EVERYTHING religion said because they didn't like that an all powerful god would trust soley in a book. As such they believed through logic and science they would best be able to understand the creator. Which they assumed to be the Christian god. |
So...what, exactly, is bad about these people?
I remember Angels & Demons saying the Illuminati pursued science during the Dark Ages. They don't sound all that bad.
Kantor said:
So...what, exactly, is bad about these people? I remember Angels & Demons saying the Illuminati pursued science during the Dark Ages. They don't sound all that bad. |
Nothing really... I mean George Washinton was a Mason... so were most early US politicans and leaders.
In fact, they were so popular that one of the VERY few single issue parties that came to prominence in the US... actually I think it might be the only... was the Anti-Masonic party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party
This actually explains where the whole "They want to take over the world" thing comes from... a local lodge of Free Masons acted like complete asses one time, may have murdered someone (may not have) and everyone freaked out.

Kantor said:
So...what, exactly, is bad about these people? I remember Angels & Demons saying the Illuminati pursued science during the Dark Ages. They don't sound all that bad. |
I think you need to follow your thread back up to the top, you know the whole part about starting wars for oil and controling the media. But who knows, they might be real swell fellows deep down, if only they'd open up and let us get to know them better.
And I mean, if they're doin gods work, let'em get'er done, amirite?
| sabby_e17 said: But the New World Order in MGS isn't masonic at all. MGS actually is Anti-NWO lol, which is a good thing. |
The Patriots are actually a reference to today's freemasons. I realize the objective of the game is anti-nwo, though.
Rockstar: Announce Bully 2 already and make gamers proud!
Kojima: Come out with Project S already!
huaxiong90 said:
The Patriots are actually a reference to today's freemasons. I realize the objective of the game is anti-nwo, though. |
Yeah, and I noticed that the way the PMCs are controlled through nanomachines is a reference as to how todays people are controlled through mind-controll and how in the future, people will be controlled through the use of implanted chips in their bodies.