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Boutros on 24 April 2010

I also find them impressive but I guess I don't really have the right to think so.



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Mr Puggsly on 24 April 2010
SaviorX said:
A whole 3k
You want an achievement medal or something?

But it did it on both consoles. Most notably the 360 which has a fraction of the userbase.



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andremop on 24 April 2010

Fail is fail.

But, it's unfortunately, since it's a very good game. But I seriously doubt that game can be better without motion controls.



Mr Puggsly on 24 April 2010
Galaki said:
NMH bombed no matter which platform. Are people seriously trying to spin this into a success?

Not exactly. It just shows they should have stuck with the HD consoles for this game.

Sega now says the Wii and Madworld was a mismatch. Apparently NMH and the Wii was a mismatch aswell.



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theRepublic on 24 April 2010

Isn't it a bit early to say it proves a point? It is one week. For all we know it could drop to 2000 units next week.



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Siko1989 on 24 April 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Galaki said:
NMH bombed no matter which platform. Are people seriously trying to spin this into a success?

Not exactly. It just shows they should have stuck with the HD consoles for this game.

Sega now says the Wii and Madworld was a mismatch. Apparently NMH and the Wii was a mismatch aswell.

how the hell does madworld prove anything? its not that great of a game, infact its very generic beatem up, so it will be in the same situation on the HD systems...




Mr Puggsly on 24 April 2010
Soriku said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Galaki said:
NMH bombed no matter which platform. Are people seriously trying to spin this into a success?

Not exactly. It just shows they should have stuck with the HD consoles for this game.

Sega now says the Wii and Madworld was a mismatch. Apparently NMH and the Wii was a mismatch aswell.


That's a really stupid statement. If that was the case, why did NMH sell 480k on the Wii, making it Suda's best selling game, him having a party over Western sales (not Japanese sales), and making a sequel for the Wii and is planning the third game for Nintendo's next console. There's no way they'd possibly think NMH on the Wii was a mismatch.

14k is nothing to be proud of no matter the game. All it means is that no one in Japan wants the game.

Ofcourse its stupid to you, you don't use logic when you defend the Wii. One of us has a HUGE bias for the Wii and its not me.

Lets not forget how fast NMH hit the bargain bin. Also, its a port of an old game. The Wii 2 year old Wii version obviously had an impact of potential HD sales.



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Mr Puggsly on 24 April 2010
Siko1989 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Galaki said:
NMH bombed no matter which platform. Are people seriously trying to spin this into a success?

Not exactly. It just shows they should have stuck with the HD consoles for this game.

Sega now says the Wii and Madworld was a mismatch. Apparently NMH and the Wii was a mismatch aswell.

how the hell does madworld prove anything? its not that great of a game, infact its very generic beatem up, so it will be in the same situation on the HD systems...

Generic games never sell great on the Wii?



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mhsillen on 24 April 2010

As for the title of your thread
No NMH bombed onthe hd twins in japan as it did on the wii
And this thread is your way of saying "hardcore" games don't sell on the wii
when NSMBWII is the hardest core game this year
typical snobish thread from the supposed hardcore



loves2splooge on 24 April 2010

The Japanese console game software market is much, much smaller than the North American console game software market. Look at vgchartz sales stats. In Americas, total gaming software sales are 5.5 times the size of Japanese gaming software sales. So that 14,674 for the PS3 is the equivalent of doing 80k first week in Americas.

So the whole "No More Heroes is more popular in the west" mantra is a myth. It only appears that way because North America is a much larger market than Japan. No More Heroes 2 is sitting at 90k in North America and it's been almost 3 months already. I think it's safe to say that No More Heroes is probably equally niche in both Japan and the west these days. With Japan being more front-loaded and the west probably having more legs (assuming that NMH2 sees a boost when it's down to $30 and under).

That all said, it's hard to say whether NMH has more appeal with the HD audience.

Things working in favor of HD versions
- Japanese VAs for Heroes Paradise, no such option with the original version on the Wii (though I suspect that most Japanese will be playing Heroes Paradise with the English VAs. For authenticity sake. The Japanese voice overs seem out of place. The game is based in California, stars an American otaku for a protagonist and features a western cast of characters.)
- NMH chicks in bikinis and such
- Xbox 360 version is uncensored, Wii version is censored
- Reduced price for release

Things working against HD versions
- 2+ year port

While the 2+ year port delay hurts the HD versions, the HD versions have a lot working towards their favor as well.

Whether you feel the Wii or the HD consoles are more suited, I will say this: The Xbox 360 sales are damn impressive for such a small install base. But it doesn't surprise me. And it's nost just because it's uncensored. That's not the only reason. Why would almost half of this game's HD console audience even has an Xbox 360 to begin with when the Xbox 360's "HD market share" is only 20% in Japan? It's because No More Heroes is a niche game and niche gamers are a heck of a lot more likely to own a 360 over there than mainstream gamers. So I'd say it's a combination of uncensored content AND the niche hardcore demographic of the game that played into the  Xbox 360's advantage.

Anywho, I hope Heroes Paradise gets brought over to North America. No More Heroes isn't the same without motion controls but I wouldn't mind playing it again with the gamepad for the achievements.

Here's a clip of Minowaman (Japanese mixed martial artist) playing Heroes Paradise. ROFL. I love Minowaman. One of my favorite Japanese fighters.