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routsounmanman on 26 April 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
jarrod said:
Mr Puggsly said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
When a port of a 2 year old game sells better than the original did, that means something. I won't venture to say what it means, but generally speaking, that's not normal.

Indeed!

 

[PS2] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 232,239

[Wii] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 236,020

 

 

...clearly, this must mean something!

Monster Hunter IS better suited for the Wii market.

By the same assessment, games like NMH are better suited for the PS3 and Xbox 360, without even lumping both platforms together and claiming it sold over 2X as much for a 2+ year old game.

Isn't this what most people have been saying here?

At least those who aren't trying to shift the argument to claim that a couple of ports cost more than the original game, making the original a better commercial success, making it better suited for the Wii platform?

And games like Monster Hunter?  High budget, big brand, brutally difficult, densely complex, definitively hardcore, co-op based online games?   Those are inherently better suited to the Wii market?  Really?

I would say the Wii hardware is better suited for online gaming than the PS2. Considering the Wii comes with networking hardware and data can be saved on SD cards.

It wasn't until 2004 when they made consoles with networking ports but then they removed the friggin hard drive support. Its a shame Sony dropped the ball with Online gaming for the PS2.

Monster Hunter doesn't demand mass storage (ie: SD cards, HDDs, etc).  It's dlc (quest, armor, weapons) could've been done easily on PS2 memory cards (and was).  

Monster Hunter also didn't release until 2004, which was when the PS2 started coming with a network adapter built in.

PS2 memory cards were only like 8MB. You can't keep much DLC or updates in that.

While the PS2 Slims had networking built in, the masses already owned a PS2 fat with no networking built in. To the contrary, every Wii has networking hardware built in.

Ultimately, the Wii was designed for online gaming on day one. The PS2 wasn't. Therefore the Wii is "better suited" for online gaming. That has a lot to do with why Monster Hunter performed better on the Wii.

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Mr Puggsly on 26 April 2010
routsounmanman said:
Mr Puggsly said:

PS2 memory cards were only like 8MB. You can't keep much DLC or updates in that.

While the PS2 Slims had networking built in, the masses already owned a PS2 fat with no networking built in. To the contrary, every Wii has networking hardware built in.

Ultimately, the Wii was designed for online gaming on day one. The PS2 wasn't. Therefore the Wii is "better suited" for online gaming. That has a lot to do with why Monster Hunter performed better on the Wii.

Spin, spin, spin.

And ofcourse... broadband internet is more common in households now than it was in 2004.

But hey, none of this is relevant at all. Nope, 2004 and 2009/2010 didn't have different circumstances at all.



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routsounmanman on 26 April 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
routsounmanman said:
Mr Puggsly said:

PS2 memory cards were only like 8MB. You can't keep much DLC or updates in that.

While the PS2 Slims had networking built in, the masses already owned a PS2 fat with no networking built in. To the contrary, every Wii has networking hardware built in.

Ultimately, the Wii was designed for online gaming on day one. The PS2 wasn't. Therefore the Wii is "better suited" for online gaming. That has a lot to do with why Monster Hunter performed better on the Wii.

Spin, spin, spin.

And ofcourse... broadband internet is more common in households now than it was in 2004.

But hey, none of this is relevant at all. Nope, 2004 and 2009/2010 didn't have different circumstances at all.

Why can't you just accept the fact that gamers will go to whatever platform their favorite game goes, and that Wii can sell core games perfectly fine?



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Mr Puggsly on 26 April 2010
routsounmanman said:
Mr Puggsly said:
routsounmanman said:
Mr Puggsly said:

PS2 memory cards were only like 8MB. You can't keep much DLC or updates in that.

While the PS2 Slims had networking built in, the masses already owned a PS2 fat with no networking built in. To the contrary, every Wii has networking hardware built in.

Ultimately, the Wii was designed for online gaming on day one. The PS2 wasn't. Therefore the Wii is "better suited" for online gaming. That has a lot to do with why Monster Hunter performed better on the Wii.

Spin, spin, spin.

And ofcourse... broadband internet is more common in households now than it was in 2004.

But hey, none of this is relevant at all. Nope, 2004 and 2009/2010 didn't have different circumstances at all.

Why can't you just accept the fact that gamers will go to whatever platform their favorite game goes, and that Wii can sell core games perfectly fine?

Hmmm... what the hell are you talking about?

I'm explaining why the Wii has an advantage for online gaming over the PS2. Hence, why Monster Hunter is better suited for the Wii compared to the PS2 and why it has performed better on the Wii.

I do however disagree with one thing you said. The Wii typically doesn't do a great job selling core games. But that's not relevant with the discussion I'm having now.



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Porcupine_I on 26 April 2010
Maynard_Tool said:
Porcupine_I said:
well, my opinion on this game is this:

do i think its a good game? YES

would i buy a Wii for this game? NO

would i buy the game for my PS3? YES


The same goes for Dead Space: Extraction, and MadWorld

This!!!! makes absolutely no sense at all O.o I mean, if it is the same game, why wouldn't you buy it for the wii?

 

i agree with you Tool, what you imply does not make sense!

 however you might want to check back on what i actually wrote.



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routsounmanman on 26 April 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
routsounmanman said:
Mr Puggsly said:
routsounmanman said:
Mr Puggsly said:

PS2 memory cards were only like 8MB. You can't keep much DLC or updates in that.

While the PS2 Slims had networking built in, the masses already owned a PS2 fat with no networking built in. To the contrary, every Wii has networking hardware built in.

Ultimately, the Wii was designed for online gaming on day one. The PS2 wasn't. Therefore the Wii is "better suited" for online gaming. That has a lot to do with why Monster Hunter performed better on the Wii.

Spin, spin, spin.

And ofcourse... broadband internet is more common in households now than it was in 2004.

But hey, none of this is relevant at all. Nope, 2004 and 2009/2010 didn't have different circumstances at all.

Why can't you just accept the fact that gamers will go to whatever platform their favorite game goes, and that Wii can sell core games perfectly fine?

Hmmm... what the hell are you talking about?

I'm explaining why the Wii has an advantage for online gaming over the PS2. Hence, why Monster Hunter is better suited for the Wii compared to the PS2 and why it has performed better on the Wii.

I do however disagree with one thing you said. The Wii typically doesn't do a great job selling core games. But that's not relevant with the discussion I'm having now.

This whole argument started when jarrod simply implied that such core games actually sell on the system. Then, you tried to downplay it on the lack of PS2 online.



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Galaki on 26 April 2010

All non-online games that sold bad on PS2 actually did sold bad. That's a fact.



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Galaki on 26 April 2010

I am not implying that online was the reason, but you make up your mind whether it was.



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masschamber on 26 April 2010

the HD twin version actually is lower price than the Wii version at both Bic Camera and Amazon.co.jp
http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_ja_JP=%83J%83%5E%83J%83i&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=no+more+heroes&x=0&y=0
http://search.biccamera.com/pall/search/?s.q=no+more+heroes&s.ie=shift-jis&x=0&y=0&s.an=
so much for the wii version being in the bargain bin



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milkyjoe on 26 April 2010

I predict another instance of foolishly judging something on week 1 and that in about 1 months time (maybe less than that) this thread is going to come back to haunt the thread starter.



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