It's Patcher, so lets not give this much credence. The Wii HD should be out already according to Patcher.

There is nothing unrealistic about this. In fact, taking a look at how LITTLE MS has done to reduce the retail price of the 360 (even at the loss of marketshare) as of late and it makes even more sense, as if this is what they've been waiting for.

Will it be big? Since the price of entry is not changing, it'll all depend on 1) how big public interest in Project Natal is during the holiday season and 2) if there is NEW reason that such a large HDD would be desired.

You don't think the Slim (with all in entails) + any costs they've racked up from skipping a year will easily absorb the cost of Natal?  The 250GB HDD will be the standard as ramses01 said so I don't see anything that would add to the cost other than Natal.

realm of posiiblity?................lol

Sony is barely making a loss of the PS3 which they said will be easily made up by software sales.Eye and Move are supposed to cost $60-70

Also Sony is to bring 45nm RSX to the PS3,that is why there are shortages of PS3 as they are trying to bring the new PS3 models(the rumored 3.0kg models replacing 3.2KG ones) that can make profit and that would make significant price cuts like we saw with the 45nm CELL implementation in PS3 SLIM which reduced costs by around $100-150.

also Toshiba is said to be working on 32nm CELL.another price cut.This will give Sony the power to cut price of the PS3 significantly

the only thing I got in this is that patcher is now reliable all of a sudden.......

I'm sorry but you are greatly getting things incorrect.  The Eye + Move Wand + Game bundle (without nunchuck) is supposed to cost "below $100" which in marketing means $99.  The bundle they should want to include with the PS3 will be the complete Eye + Wand + Nuncuck + Game bundle so that at the very least would cost them $100 if not more (if the move bundle pack is actually $60-70 then the PS3 Move bundle with nunchuck added would be $100 added cost.  If the move bundle pack is close to $100 like I estimate, then the bunle would add more than $100 cost to the PS3).

You also greatly overestimate the cost savings of die shrinks.  While they do save costs, just one shrink does not mean $100-150 in savings.  The Slim was able to reduce costs by the overall weight reduction.  They shrank the cell, removed a lot of unneeded internal casing and cooling, changed materials, shrank the PSU, etc.  All that combined for about $100 in savings.

Shrinking the RSX now and removing some small amount of weight will allow them to break even or make a minor profit.  Do you really think they want to take another $60-100 loss per console sold?

^yeah 'cause Sony won't cut costs but MS will...rolls eyes... also, Sony will launch a BUNDLE AIMED TO CASUALS FOR $350-$400 you say? MAJOR LOL! Look, you don't have to be a genius to know that won't sell. It's childish to think like that really. It makes no sense at all.

Congratulations on being a dick.

Fact is the marketting in gamestation is far more weighted to Move than Natal, and I hardly think that's the store preference, but more likely the chains.

Plus Natal is gaining far more criticism....Not sure what you are reading but there was the leaked list of dev issues know for Natal, not to mention latency complaints and so on.
As far as marketting is concerned, which is going to seem more appealing - the eyetoy, or the eyetoy with the wiimote? Think about it.

they are loosing more then you think. i thinkt he last report was that they were loosing $18 on every console shipped. but for every console sold to the consumer they are loosing like $50 dollars. you have to acount for the money the retailer gets for every console sold wich is $30 or more.

anyway if "sony is barely making a loss of the PS3 which they said will be easily made up by software" was true they would have made a profit by now.

Hmm lets see.  You mean that French blog post of past worries about Natal that were never confirmed?  I think I trust the dozens of news stories that have come out since then about the finished Natal product.  The ones claiming perfect body mirroring, no lag issues, etc.

As for your last thing, obviously an Eyetoy with Wiimote would be better than just an EyeToy.  But Natal would be better than both of those.  The EyeToy can only track 2D color changes and what not.  Adding the "wiimote" as you call it (otherwise known as PS Move), lets you track 2 points in 3D space, but direct view of the wands must be available and decent lighting is recommended.  This does have some drawbacks.  For example, if you watch the PS Move commercial showing off the fighting game, the elbows tend to get confused and not match up with the persons movements because nothing other than the 2 hands are tracked.  With Natal the full body would be tracked and mirrored.  Natal can track up to 48 points per person in 3D space and mimic even complex human movements like break dancing.  Add in that Natal can work in complete darkness and I think it is clear which is more appealing and more advanced.  Natal.