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jesus kung fu magic on 10 April 2010
Tuganuno said:
Bayonetta is a cool game (on the 360) but God of War is just sooooooo good =P I really think you should end the game first then edit the OP, the ending is one of the best I've played, nearly as epic as MGS4 was. The story, the graphs and the sound are enough to give the victory to GoW. Plus it has a great replay value and lots of extras. Imo it sets the bar at a higher level for the best graphics on the PS3.
Oh I forgot to talk about the gameplay.. well, Athena told Kratos that the Blades of Exile would be his best posession to defeat the Gods, so you can consider the other weapons as extras :P It's very fluid and fun, specially because you have enumerous ways to kill your enemies.
The only rant I have on GoW are the checkpoints. Specially on boss fights, these are awful... die once, start all over again =/ annoyed me alot, specially on Hard difficulty.

I just finished the game and there are more gripes I have with the game.......David....please come back and do GOW right...



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Jojo51 on 10 April 2010
aragod said:
The only thing where Bayonetta might have upper hand over GoW is the fluidity of combat, but that's thanks to different playstyle. Bayonetta is basically DMC with female heroin, which sadly lost all the appeal that the real DMC had since everything in Bayonetta apart from the actual gameplay is bland and boring.

Animation per se, meaning animation of characters... GoW > miles over > Bayonetta. If you mean fluidity of combat, than yes, Bayonetta is more fluid, but that has nothint to do with animation. Bayonetta is also "faster" by deafult and the combat system is different. It's OK to prefer Bayonetta's style over GoW3, but it's wrong to judge the quality of the game from one single comparasing when the other game is clearly better in every other aspect, and only because you like one of the playstyles better than the other.

That's not quality difference, that's playstyle preference. In the end, God of War is clearly a better and more polished game. Bayonetta's playstyle just suits you more, but it's not a better game.

You spoke well and I totally agree with your words !

Yes, this comparaison isn't a real one, choose to compare the gameplay OR the global quality of the titles. The gameplay feeling is totally subjective, but nobody can really say that Bayonetta is a superior BTA than GoW3. In pure technicals terms, there is a big gulf between there two, Gow3 is the masterpiece of what this generation and specially the PS3 can deliver has graphics, animations, sounds etc...

In terms of gameplay, there is two school, some prefer fighting and fighting, other do rather fighting, puzzle and plateform. In that case, we can easy they that Gow 3 is clearly more varied. In an other view, Bayonetta doesn't offer really more than DMC, the game mecanics are totally identic and we cannot see any real improvement on this point. Don't even think about saying that the witch time is new, just DMC 1 on PS2 already offer this kind of tricks with a special item... -_-'

I'm a real BTA fan and loves both bayonetta and Gow3 at the same level. I have more hour played and Bayo than Gow3 only because the trophy are more difficult to unlock. Fan of Ruy Hayabusa and Dante from DMC (note inferno ;p) too. And to be totally objective, I say that Gow 3 surpass Bayonetta in all points, only the gameplay feeling can "put" a divergeance.



SpartanFX on 10 April 2010

my opinion having played both:

GOW is much better game overall.the only thing bayonetta has going is the over the top combos which is not necessarily better but just different.

everything else from graphics to story line to music to attention to details are superior in GOW.

to top that of bayonetta is one of the most unlikable gaming character to play as a mature gamer like myself ,,,a bitchy librarian ,,,,give me a break.

I understamd the sudden love of 360 owners for bayonetta but wait until the second one comes out .it will be lead platfrom on PS3 as confirmed by platinum games so PS3 will be the same or slightly better .then all of 360 owners enthusiasm for this game ends just like ninja gaiden series.


I mean how many threads did we have claiming that ninja gaiden 2 was better than god of war when it was exclusive to 360?but it got a better version on PS3 and all of a sudden none of the 360 owners defend it anymore.

predictable behavior is kinda boring ;)



 

 

 

Jojo51 on 10 April 2010

I just finished the game and there are more gripes I have with the game.......David....please come back and do GOW right...

Agree with that too ! This Gow opus isn't the ultimate, some new directions taken by the game director like a darker and more mature univers are real mistakes. In another point, the musics and more globally the sound ambiant quality is far far under of what this series has used.

If I had to make a personal ranking, I would say  Gow II > Gow I > > Gow 3



aragod on 10 April 2010
Jojo51 said:
aragod said:
The only thing where Bayonetta might have upper hand over GoW is the fluidity of combat, but that's thanks to different playstyle. Bayonetta is basically DMC with female heroin, which sadly lost all the appeal that the real DMC had since everything in Bayonetta apart from the actual gameplay is bland and boring.

Animation per se, meaning animation of characters... GoW > miles over > Bayonetta. If you mean fluidity of combat, than yes, Bayonetta is more fluid, but that has nothint to do with animation. Bayonetta is also "faster" by deafult and the combat system is different. It's OK to prefer Bayonetta's style over GoW3, but it's wrong to judge the quality of the game from one single comparasing when the other game is clearly better in every other aspect, and only because you like one of the playstyles better than the other.

That's not quality difference, that's playstyle preference. In the end, God of War is clearly a better and more polished game. Bayonetta's playstyle just suits you more, but it's not a better game.

You spoke well and I totally agree with your words !

Yes, this comparaison isn't a real one, choose to compare the gameplay OR the global quality of the titles. The gameplay feeling is totally subjective, but nobody can really say that Bayonetta is a superior BTA than GoW3. In pure technicals terms, there is a big gulf between there two, Gow3 is the masterpiece of what this generation and specially the PS3 can deliver has graphics, animations, sounds etc...

In terms of gameplay, there is two school, some prefer fighting and fighting, other do rather fighting, puzzle and plateform. In that case, we can easy they that Gow 3 is clearly more varied. In an other view, Bayonetta doesn't offer really more than DMC, the game mecanics are totally identic and we cannot see any real improvement on this point. Don't even think about saying that the witch time is new, just DMC 1 on PS2 already offer this kind of tricks with a special item... -_-'

I'm a real BTA fan and loves both bayonetta and Gow3 at the same level. I have more hour played and Bayo than Gow3 only because the trophy are more difficult to unlock. Fan of Ruy Hayabusa and Dante from DMC (note inferno ;p) too. And to be totally objective, I say that Gow 3 surpass Bayonetta in all points, only the gameplay feeling can "put" a divergeance.

I like DMC style of gameplay too, I think that DMC 4 was great even though a lot of people consider it a step down from previous titles (mainly 1st and 3rd). But the thing that really kept me playing DMC were the characters and the universe, I thought that the story was good (not excellent but not bad) and characters amazing (Dante is the man) and the whole narrative really suited the game. This here is where I think that Bayonetta completly fails, it may have more tighter and polished gameplay, but the game's presentation and story are utter shit.

Back on the topic, there is no doubt in my mind that GoW3 is on a different level of quality than Bayonetta. GoW3 is one of the biggest titles ever created in this industry and it's quality reflects that.



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dahuman on 10 April 2010

God of War 3, all aspects averages higher than Bayonetta.

First, the presentation, God of War 3 is a finished product when comparing the presentation of film slides of Bayonetta's unpolished crap.

Second, the graphics, the difference is to the point where they can't even be compared.

Third, characters, both are closely bad.

Fourth, game play, Bayonetta is more flexible, God of War 3 is more unforgiven, God of War 3 is harder, depends on your taste since Bayonetta is all about dodging while God of War 3 is the overall, I like them both the same personally.

Fifth, story, both suck ass tbh, but Bayonetta is so out there that God of War 3 stands over it by some.

Sixth, sound, God of War 3 shits all over Byonetta on that part, there is no contest.

 

Final analyzation, God of War 3 has a much higher BUDGET. It should be no surprise, so this is basically another "no shit!"



gustave154 on 10 April 2010

Ok since impressions are opinions i think we should look at facts.
Review scores for God Of War 3 are higher than Bayonetta.
God Of War 3 outsold Bayonetta's sales in one week.
Almost every hardcore gamer knows God Of War. No one gives a damn about Bayonetta.
In the end , a game has to sell to be the better game.

Face it , God Of War IS the king of Hack and Slash.
Bayonetta may be the Queen though xD



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Staude on 10 April 2010
jesus kung fu magic said:
BW_JP said:
Gameplay is different, but not worse. You cannot compare them.

They are far too different. Compare Bayonetta to something like Ninja Gaiden or DMC.

GoW is not the same kind of game, it's not a technical game.

Opinion only.

Production values: GoW3
Scale: GoW 3
Graphics: GoW 3
Presentation: GoW3
Story: GoW3
Music: Tied
Gameplay: Uncomparable, but they are both peaks of their own genres, so tied
Controls: Tied

Winner, GoW3.

Though we all know the purpose of your post.

They are both HnS and should be treated as such , they are not in different genres.

@bolded

Heaven forbid I have an opinion different from yours.

God of War 3 is a action adventure game. I don't know how you would classify bayonetta as I haven't played the full game.

I'll go on a limp but I don't see everything people are raving about with bayonetta. The demo makes it seem like a boring version of devil may cry and concidering dmc4, that's saying a lot. This is not me trolling. Frankly it felt extremely boring. That is my opinion.

I didn't get it for said reason which is why I can't comment on the full game.

 

Though animations are more than just their fluidity. It's also about the animations themselves.



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Wagram on 10 April 2010

Production values: GoW3
Scale: Tied
Graphics: GoW 3
Presentation: GoW3
Story: GoW3
Music: Tied
Gameplay: Bayonetta
Controls: Bayonetta