Are you for real?

All you have shown is that the wii remote can be used as a steering wheel or lightgun which have been around since the PS1.
Your claims that HD consoles have done nothing for game genres is a lie, ignoring games such as Heavy Rain, Gears of War, Killzone 2, Resistance 2 and so on.

Something to show that hardcore gamers are not interested in the wii is that it would seem to have not a single, or maybe one or two (?) benchmark games for any game genre. Why would a hardcore gamer buy a console which offers games of a lower quality than other gaming platforms?

You are not a hardcore gamer - you clearly haven't touched the likes of Gears of War, Killzone 2, Uncharted etc. You simply enjoy casual games, something the wii excels at, but casual games are not for the hardcore by definition.

The fact you ignore many of the features of modern games to aid your claim the wii is for the hardcore shows how hollow your argument is.

By the way, you have yet to provide any evidence for the wii latency, so it's a completely stupid point to bring up - let it go.
Why do I need evidence wii's are collecting dust? That's digressing from my point the wii is for casual gamers (ergo people not interested in a  wii 2 due to a lack of interest in hardware), something which is backed up by the fact the wii has no benchmark or revolutionary games, which cannot be said for the PS3, PC or 360.

So going to tell me what games make the wii revolutionary or just pretending you've already answered it, which you haven't, unless you can tell me how a light gun and a steering wheel are revolutionary considering the length of time they've been around.

The wii is great for parties and casual gamers, but I would say that it has no benchmark games for any genre, meaning it's game offerings are of a lower quality than the other consoles, and it's hardware also limits game quality. That doesn't mean it's a bad console, but people like to argue it's the bezt gamez c0nsol3 evar and then argue this point relentlessly with idiotic statements such as the HD consoles offer no revolutionary games.

So you mean the best quality games on PS2 are all of a sudden bad now because better hardware has been made?

ask and answered

where are links to prove your stand? I wont discuss your imaginary claims.

The only games  I haven´t played are the ones on ps3 the rest are not only played but finnished more then once and you would know this if you spent more time here besides trolling the wii.

So its safe to say you have no more arguments as you go in circles and refuse to provide links to your claims?

No you simply lied by saying that Killzone 2, Gears of War, Heavy Rain, Resistance 2, MGS4 etc have done nothing new for gaming. That's not telling me what games on the wii are benchmark games for a specific genre is it?

Oh you haven't played Resistance 2 etc, yet you claim that they've been done before. Congratualtions for being knowingly ignorant.

What claims? The wii has no hardcore games? Well I said & say it doesn't because it's hardware does not provide the capacity for hardcore games. You claim the wii does have hardcore and have yet to back this up.

So PLEASE back up your claim that the wii is for the hardcore by showing me how the wii offers genre defining games, or just accept it's a console for the casual and so next gen Nintendo will have to approach a new console from a different angle than the usual "let's just make the hardware better".

i am notr backin anything more up then I allready have untill you start backing up atleast 1 of your claims, you have been going on for several pages asking people to back things up yet you havrn´t backed up a thing, so its logical that it is your turn to back up your claims or there is only one conclusion you make things up to suit your agenda and your ass is a numbers and bullsit creator rhat shits out claims tgat are bollocks.

So show us you are a serious gamer and debater and show some supporting evidence for all your bold claims.

No you simply lied by saying that Killzone 2, Gears of War, Heavy Rain, Resistance 2, MGS4 etc have done nothing new for gaming. That's not telling me what games on the wii are benchmark games for a specific genre is it?

Oh you haven't played Resistance 2 etc, yet you claim that they've been done before. Congratualtions for being knowingly ignorant.

What claims? The wii has no hardcore games? Well I said & say it doesn't because it's hardware does not provide the capacity for hardcore games. You claim the wii does have hardcore and have yet to back this up.

So PLEASE back up your claim that the wii is for the hardcore by showing me how the wii offers genre defining games, or just accept it's a console for the casual and so next gen Nintendo will have to approach a new console from a different angle than the usual "let's just make the hardware better".