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GodOfWar_3ever said:
tehsage said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
tehsage said:

lol wait. since when were we discussing exclusives? we're comparing sony as a developer to nintendo and microsoft as a developer. Who the fuck cares what other companies make?

Where have I mentioned a game not published by Sony ?

Dude. Publisher!=Developer.

Sony more or less contribute heavily to their first party published games developed by second parties... Their ICE team helps these devs...So its OK to call these guys "Sony devs"..

But their games are not developed by Sony, and it's the games that are which are being discussed here. Gears of War wasn't made by Microsoft, just like Heavy Rain wasn't made by Sony, and that's the way things are.



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Barozi said:

Sony > Nintendo > Microsoft
as far as 1st party titles goes (this gen)

 

EDIT: I take that back. Just looked up some games from this gen again and I came to a better conclusion:

 

Sony >> Microsoft > Nintendo

(this gen)

Does Microsoft have any other first party game this year besides Halo:reach?

 

Oh lemme guess

 

Halo reach > Zelda:wii+Metroid other M+ Super Mario galaxy 2+Sin&Punishment2



I'm a different sort of demographic with a completely different idea of what I want in a game. For me the games I like are titles you would see from publishing companies like Marvelous, Atlus, Enix, and Nintendo. I like games with a fun atmosphere that is not overly oppressive or trying to be badass; except when it is something like Scarface, which for some reason I really took a liking to (there are always exceptions).

Games like Little King Story are the type of games I play.
Games like God of War or Gran Turismo do not hold any appeal to me.

Nintendo has a mix; while I am not so fond of the last console Zelda game or their Metroid titles, I have a huge interests in games like New Super Mario Brothers Wii, Wii Fit, WarioWare, and upcoming titles like Xenoblade.

I am not so fond of the PC game style direction that PS3 took this generation.



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Squilliam said:
r505Matt said:
Squilliam said:

For rentals:

Sony > Microsoft > Nintendo.

For games I will keep:

Microsoft = Nintendo > Sony

I just find the types of games Sony releases are interesting to play once and experience but I find the idea of playing them more than once not to my taste.

Microsoft tends to produce games which have local coop, more solid gameplay even if less spectacular so I find they can be replayed more easily and Nintendo are the same. The value I find in the Nintendo/Microsoft games exceed that of Sony games even though I play my PS3 more than my Xbox 360 I still own more Xbox 360 titles.

I am a PC gamer first and foremost and I shouldn't forget that whilst I play many games on consoles like a buffet I tend to buy to own on the PC. My HD 5870 means I can be extremely critical of the graphics of a title and often I come into the Sony titles with a critical mindset due to the graphical hype they often recieve so I then tear them apart mentally and any good work they may have done passes over my head.

This

After playing most Sony games once, I have no need/desire to play it again. They don't offer the same replayability as Nintendo games or even MS games, and none of them even compare to the PC games I have.

The way I see it sometimes, Nintendo is for the social gamer, the gamer who likes to have friends over and play games. Xbox is similar, but it's also for the online gamer, who likes to go online and listen to 12 year olds cry about how much they suck/rock. PS3 is for the single-player gamer, the one who enjoys that movie-like experience in the game, and can have a lot of fun playing alone.

I, for one, don't care for the single-player experience much these days, I don't have time for it really. There are still games I HAVE to play (Uncharted, Mass Effect, etc.), but I always prefer the MP experience. Even then, I can replay Mass Effect over and over, but I fell asleep trying to replay Uncharted 1 (and I like 1 MUCH more than 2, but I've talked about that before). There's just a "feel" to Sony's games, that I can't really describe, that doesn't lend themselves to be replayed, and also usually makes me feel disinterested. This obviously isn't the case for everyone, but they don't have as much value to me. Great rentals, but I'm glad I've only bought a few PS3 games.

Obviously, I'm talking console exclusives, not 1st party. It seems unfair to talk 1st party since it's aim seems to be to keep MS out of the loop. But in terms of 1st party, easily Nintendo. SSBB, NSMBW, just those two games alone are more fun than any other PS3/Xbox 360 game I've played, and this is coming from an RPG-lover. Guess it's part of me turning more into a social gamer and not playing single-player games as much.

I would say that personally Sony have a high flash:substance ratio. Their games are really impressive, once. So for a hardcore gamer whos buying and keeping over 5-10 games per year then I can understand the love Sony gets, but I guess more picky people who have to share their time with multiple platforms / have different values -> I hate cinematic style games as a genre, I enjoy playing them once but never more than that because I have a tendency to pick them apart mentally as I play and it ruins my suspension of disbelief. Uncharted 2 for example lost me at the first scene because he wasn't wearing gloves and he had a hole in his stomach.

I'll play something like Mass Effect more than once because I love the control I have or even the perception of control. I love playing games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Crysis as well as games like Jagged Alliance 2, Civilization IV and I'll keep coming back to them even though I've spent hundreds of hours playing each title. For me with your average Sony title once I know how the story ends a significant proportion of the value of the game is lost which is why I said they make better rentals so I can play them once/twice then send them packing.

I hear that! I thought I was the only one that couldn't get into the beginning of Uncharted 2. For me though, the clincher was when he was climbing up the train, and large rocks were falling down towards him, and he somehow didn't die. That with being in the cold, without gloves, and with a hole in his stomach. It was over the top for me, and essentially ruined the entire game experience. It essentially reminded me of a cheesy, bad action movie, that can be funny to watch, but it's not really an engaging experience.

I'm not big into the cinematic style games either, if I want that sort of experience, I watch a good movie. As a cinematic story-telling form of entertainment, games just aren't there yet to me. Then again, for pure story, it's all about books to me. Comic books can be okay too, they just narrow down the imagination a bit, but they can relay a story much faster than most books.

I'm not sure, but I wonder if gaming background has something to do with it? Maybe gamers who started with PS1 or PS2 have gotten more into that sort of experience, whereas I started with Nintendo, Atari and PC games. And, I've owned almost every major console since (skipped over some of the handhelds though).

 



Samus Aran said:
Barozi said:

Sony > Nintendo > Microsoft
as far as 1st party titles goes (this gen)

 

EDIT: I take that back. Just looked up some games from this gen again and I came to a better conclusion:

 

Sony >> Microsoft > Nintendo

(this gen)

Does Microsoft have any other first party game this year besides Halo:reach?

 

Oh lemme guess

 

Halo reach > Zelda:wii+Metroid other M+ Super Mario galaxy 2+Sin&Punishment2

Crackdown 2, Alan Wake & Fable 3

 

I don't like Zelda that much; Metroid Other M doesn't look anywhere as good as the old ones; Sin & Punishment 2 looks good, but not on the same level; Only Super Mario Galaxy 2 has my attention.

I also said "this gen" and not "this year"....



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Jumpin said:
For me the games I like are titles you would see from publishing companies like Marvelous, Atlus, Enix, and Nintendo.


You just nailed 4 of my top 5 companies in 1 sentence! (XSeed is the missing one.) But yeah, I find that they remember what makes gaming fun, and bring it over. Thus, I happily buy their titles.

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-On a quest for the truly perfect game; I don't think it exists...

(Note, I consider 1st party anything Nintendo/Sony exclusively publish WW even though most people on this forum call that 2nd party. However, considering they are exclusively publishing it, they should be treating it like a 1st party game with investments and quality)

Nintendo 1st party games mostly end in a 1st day buy. They are the best of the best. There are a few flops, but almost all their games are spectacular. I would rate almost all of their games better than the equivilent of any other dev. No one has matched 2D or 3D platforming, SRPGs, Kart Racing, Zelda like adventure, or half the genres they make.

Sony 1st party games typically don't interest me nearly as much as Nintendo games, but they are very good and always worth looking into. Sony games seem to be the best games on the PS3, and they seem to be doing their best job ever. My only real gripe isn't with the quality of the games, but the types of games they choose to make. I'd rather they make "family friendly" and less story driven games more focused on the gameplay. Understand that this doesn't mean kiddy games, but Valkyria Chronicles is family friendly and very fun. God of War 3 is not. Ratchet & Clank is family friendly, Heavy Rain isn't. I enjoy games that I can enjoy with everyone and Sony doesn't always provide that type of content. As for story driven, I enjoy the occasional story, but I also love games like NSMBWii where there is essentially no story and it is all about playing the game. LBP is probably the closets it comes from Sony but it isn't nearly as challenging as 2D Mario.

(i'll have to read through this thread later)




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GodOfWar_3ever said:
SmoothCriminal said:
I dare you to find a game franchise more revered than Mario, Metroid or Zelda. Every time Nintendo makes a game, it automatically becomes one of my favorite games of all time. There are NO exceptions to this rule.

As good as Sony's games may be, they have no soul. In every Nintendo game, I can feel the love and dedication that went into making it. Whether it from the writing and story (Fire Emblem), or the great characters and puzzles (Zelda), great atmosphere (Metroid), or even just the pure joy (Mario), nothing in any generation has rivaled Nintendo, and nothing ever will.

P.S. I am completely unashamed to admit my Nintendo fanboyism.

I wouldn't have minded if you just said that you prefer Nintendo games...theres nothing wrong with that opinion..But "lacking soul" is a serious accusation....

God of War, Uncharted

Uncharted

God of War, Team ICO games

This is something that almost ALL Sony exclusives have - Killzone, Uncharted, God of War, inFAMOUS

Wipeout, LBP, God of War, inFamous

he probably didnt even play those games



Samus Aran said:
Barozi said:

Sony > Nintendo > Microsoft
as far as 1st party titles goes (this gen)

 

EDIT: I take that back. Just looked up some games from this gen again and I came to a better conclusion:

 

Sony >> Microsoft > Nintendo

(this gen)

Does Microsoft have any other first party game this year besides Halo:reach?

 

Oh lemme guess

 

Halo reach > Zelda:wii+Metroid other M+ Super Mario galaxy 2+Sin&Punishment2

do we even know that zelda:wii is commiing out this year?



pizzahut451 said:
Samus Aran said:
Barozi said:

Sony > Nintendo > Microsoft
as far as 1st party titles goes (this gen)

 

EDIT: I take that back. Just looked up some games from this gen again and I came to a better conclusion:

 

Sony >> Microsoft > Nintendo

(this gen)

Does Microsoft have any other first party game this year besides Halo:reach?

 

Oh lemme guess

 

Halo reach > Zelda:wii+Metroid other M+ Super Mario galaxy 2+Sin&Punishment2

do we even know that zelda:wii is commiing out this year?

Yes. As far as it can be known.



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