well we have yet to see a first party exclusive for the ps3 go full 1080p so.....

imagine the possibilities.

who cares? I mean, those games (or any franchise from Sony) will never be made for other than a Sony system. And they are still the best technically speaking. When you see a game that can rival those PS3 exclusive above in BOTH content and technology, let me know. There are none on the 360 as of now.

if your not interested as the rest of us are then don't post anything in this thread.

in other words if you have nothing good to say then dont say anything at all.

FTA regarding architecting on PS3 then porting to XBOX:

"We don't have dedicated threads for processing specific tasks in-game with the exception of a PhysX thread," explains Shishkovtsov. "All our threads are basic workers. We use task-model but without any pre-conditioning or pre/post-synchronising. Basically all tasks can execute in parallel without any locks from the point when they are spawned. There are no inter-dependencies for tasks.

It looks like a tree of tasks, which start from more heavyweight ones at the beginning of the frame (to make the system self-balanced). The last time I measured the statistics, we were running approximately 3,000 tasks per 30ms frame on Xbox 360 on CPU-intensive scenes with all hardware threads at 100 per cent load."

And again, similar to Criterion's multi-threading work, 4A Games has found that a similar implementation works on the Sony console too.

"The PS3 is not that different... We use 'fibres' to 'emulate' a six-thread CPU, and then each task can spawn a SPURS (SPU) job and switch to another fibre. This is a kind of PPU off-loading, which is transparent to the system. The end result of this beautiful (apart from somewhat restricting) model is that we have perfectly linear scaling up to the hardware deficiency limits."

While the engine is described as a complete cross-platform development environment, there is to be no PlayStation 3 SKU of Metro 2033. The game will launch on PC and Xbox 360 only. However, the Sony console played a big part in the development work for the core tech.

"From the start we selected the most 'difficult' platform to run on. A lot of decisions were made explicitly knowing the limits and quirks we'll face in the future," explains Shishkovtsov.

FTA regarding KZ:

Looking at the engine spec published on Digital Foundry yesterday, there are many similarities in terms of technologies with Guerrilla Games' epic Killzone 2: pretty much the standard other developers have to aspire to in the console realm when it comes to first-person shooters. Guerrilla's engine is quite remarkable, geared completely to the specific hardware strengths of the Sony platform, but Shishkovtsov evaluates its performance from a different perspective.

"Their implementation seems to be badly optimised," he observes. "Otherwise why do they have pre-calculated light-mapping? Why do they light dynamic stuff differently to the rest of the world with light-probe similar stuff? From our experience you need at least 150 full-fledged light-sources per frame to have indoor environments look good and natural, and many more to highlight such things like eyes, etc. It seems they just missed that performance target."

Really, doesn't look like there's anything significant on a PS3 that can't be done on the 360 with the exception of more content due to BlueRay, especially considering the larger memory size and more flexible shaders on the 360.  Engines are built to the strengths of the system - ex. Ninja Gaiden II on 360 had more enemies due to more flexibility in vertex shaders, whereas in Sigma 2 they had to cut the number of enemies but instead used more horsepower on the graphics due to the RSX restrictions, as well as less alpha blending scenarios which the PS3 is notoriously bad at.

So whether these games/engines are possible on the 360 would probably depend on how well the engine is written, but I'd bet anyone would be hard pressed to name a specific engine feature that absolutely could not be implemented on the 360 that could be done on the PS3, except of course BlueRay movie playback.

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no need to be rude dude, it's just my opinion on the topic. I'm allowed to do that. And will say another thing: Those games are possible on the 360. If Guerrilla and Santa Monica Studio were given the task to make them from scratch (no port) for the 360, they would find a way. Multiple discs + installs (if they wanna keep it IDENTICAL more than 3 discs for each KZ2 and GOW3, and KZ2 multiplayer part on a disc or 2 of its own) or SOMETHING would be required but they could pull it off (no True HD audio or HD FMV, of course, since that would be pushing it to the impossible). I think if the HDD was mandatory for any of those big PS3 games, it would be even more possible.

Why graphics are so important? Wasn't graphic whoring the thing that made newest FF linear and sucky? If you want immersive graphics above consoles try PC.

And my answer for the thread.

Uncharted & God of War 3 -> maybe

no one needs an eye check here, ive played through gears 2 although it looks good its not as good as uncharted 1, just when you get of the 1st sections of gears 2 have you seen the snow sections near the building it looks like mud literally. latter levels look good in art but almost all the textures seem to be made of a glass effect. char models animation lighting are better on uncharted 1. uncharted 2 is simply uncomparable to gears 2 its light years ahead. gears 2 also uses sprites for trees in flying sections.

No, they are both not possible as Sony owns both IP's. Just like Halo isn't possible on the PS3 as MS owns the IP.

No, they are Sony owned IPs...jsut like Halo isn't possible on PS3.