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I have finally completed this, thanks to the help of HigHurtenflurst, RolStoppable and icykai.

Now even PS2 numbers are all fine, but it is "produced" numbers, which for me as an industrial, does not make any difference for what we want to compare.

EVERY MINT condition PS2 have been sold today, if you know where I can get one for "cheap" I immediately take it.

TOTAL shipment ratio evolution for 'Switch / DS':

Last edited by Amnesia - on 09 November 2022

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Nice.

Out of interest why does 3DS stop in 2017 though?



Really good! And good color scheme to recognize each console, i've seen really good graphs that are hard to understad because the colors selection.



I was just checking this yesterday, hope the links help.

Ps2 starts on 2000 Q1 (March 2000) and ends on 2006 Q4 (March 2007):
https://web.archive.org/web/20120609161654/http://scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html

Ps2 starts on 2006 Q1 (March 2006) and ends on 2011 Q4 (March 2012):
https://web.archive.org/web/20131101120621/www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_sale_e.html

Basically you'll be skipping 2006 row from the second link and just adding 2007 to 2011 to the table.

The last link is when Sony decided for no reason to combine the PS2 and PS3 sales.

PS2 and PS3 sales combined starts on Q1 2012 (March 2012) and ends on Q1 2013 (June 2013):
https://web.archive.org/web/20131022125200/http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdata_ces_sale_e.html
Since the PS2 got discontinued by the end of Q3 2012( Dec 2012), I think Q4 2012 and Q1 2013 are irrelevant.

Also, there is the continuation of the shipment for the 2013 FY, but i dont know if you'll find anything useful there either.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180210150030/http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/data/hardware_sale.html



If you want more this is Nintendo's historical data: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/historical_data/index.html

And in a neoGAF thread Rol linked to someone posted this googledocs spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ktRB2qmldCTsto2HFhGCK9V9W6D07RfaWlnfGYypCk/edit#gid=1
Which has quarterly shipments for all Nintendo hardware from 2003-2016, and some half-year shipment data from 2000-2003, so you can add GBA & GameCube if you want.



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HigHurtenflurst said:

If you want more this is Nintendo's historical data: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/historical_data/index.html

And in a neoGAF thread Rol linked to someone posted this googledocs spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ktRB2qmldCTsto2HFhGCK9V9W6D07RfaWlnfGYypCk/edit#gid=1
Which has quarterly shipments for all Nintendo hardware from 2003-2016, and some half-year shipment data from 2000-2003, so you can add GBA & GameCube if you want.

For the 2003-2016 document, i'm guessing the numbers are in thousands (x1,000) correct?

The recent ones are in 10 thousands(x10,000) so i'm not sure.



icykai said:
HigHurtenflurst said:

If you want more this is Nintendo's historical data: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/historical_data/index.html

And in a neoGAF thread Rol linked to someone posted this googledocs spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ktRB2qmldCTsto2HFhGCK9V9W6D07RfaWlnfGYypCk/edit#gid=1
Which has quarterly shipments for all Nintendo hardware from 2003-2016, and some half-year shipment data from 2000-2003, so you can add GBA & GameCube if you want.

For the 2003-2016 document, i'm guessing the numbers are in thousands (x1,000) correct?

The recent ones are in 10 thousands(x10,000) so i'm not sure.

The Googledoc is just what that neogaf user compiled so yes they converted to 1000s of units, Nintendo's own reports use 10,000s for some reason, which I always found an odd multiplier.



@Amnesia
You should add thin vertical lines for each quarter in the chart for a better overview.

Last edited by Chomanno - on 02 February 2021

icykai said:

I was just checking this yesterday, hope the links help.

Ps2 starts on 2000 Q1 (March 2000) and ends on 2006 Q4 (March 2007):
https://web.archive.org/web/20120609161654/http://scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html

Ps2 starts on 2006 Q1 (March 2006) and ends on 2011 Q4 (March 2012):
https://web.archive.org/web/20131101120621/www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_sale_e.html

Basically you'll be skipping 2006 row from the second link and just adding 2007 to 2011 to the table.

The last link is when Sony decided for no reason to combine the PS2 and PS3 sales.

PS2 and PS3 sales combined starts on Q1 2012 (March 2012) and ends on Q1 2013 (June 2013):
https://web.archive.org/web/20131022125200/http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdata_ces_sale_e.html
Since the PS2 got discontinued by the end of Q3 2012( Dec 2012), I think Q4 2012 and Q1 2013 are irrelevant.

Also, there is the continuation of the shipment for the 2013 FY, but i dont know if you'll find anything useful there either.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180210150030/http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/data/hardware_sale.html

Thanks for that.

This shows the discrepancy between internal shipments and "sales" (aka shipments to retailers)

This shows Sony's internal shipments on the left, & "sales" on the right for the FY end Mar2007:

Q1 2.54 2.3
Q2 5.02 3.4
Q3 4.11 6.7
Q4 2.53 2.4
Total 14.2 14.8


Not sure if any consoles got counted twice, or not at all during the transition (Nintendo figures also used to be internal shipments but they transitioned in year 2000)


Interestingly in your first link you can see they regularly ship a large number of units in the September quarter, often exceeding the December quarter, which shows how early they have to prepare for holiday sales.



Based off the Switch's pace rn, it's safe to assume the Switch's biggest opponents in sales will be the PS2 and DS. The Switch will obviously pass the Wii and most likely the PS4 as 120-130M is looking more and more like a pessimistic prediction for the Switch. The only other system that sold as fast as he Switch at this point is the DS, which sold 154M. It's better to expect a sales prediction close to that for the Switch.