killer7 said: Game content spend. This incues DLC, microtransactions, free games... not hardware. No single PC was supported 10 years+ sold 150 million+ graphic cards (equivalent to console generations) do not hold more than 3- 4 years max, mot times they get dated even earlier. Close to no physical PC games are sold in stores. Console versions of games sell much better... No person with a brain buys an overpriced desktop PC today. When a new console launches, watch 100s of people lining up just to get their system on launch day. When games like Mario, GTA... launch, watch 100s of people rushing in stores, clearing stock day 1, watch PS5 for example: That thing was supply castrained for a full 2 years!! Please show me a graphics card that was demanded like that! The only game where people lined up like crazy was World Of Warcraft and that was ~ 20 years ago but nothing compared to the Wii launch in my country where we had injured people because hysteria was so intense that people where breaking through the glasern shop wimdows. There was blood on the floor, we had an ambulance here... hysteria os much more intense on consoles. I work at a retailer and know what i am talking about. Every few weeks we got a few people interesting in high end PCs. Maybe you will say: "But they buy everything online!" But reality is (PC gamers hate to admid it) but they also like physical goods and get a bit jalous on console users cause we got games on UHD Blu Ray, play split screen, get true Dolby Atmos (Xbox Series X/S) or get games like Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Pokémon... wich they cannot play. Many things on PC are free, thats also included in your statistics. Online play for example. On consoles you get charged for it. Personally i would never even touch a PC and thanks gopdness i do not need one for work!! |
What are you talking about? This must be one of the worst copes I ever seen.
"Game content spend. This incues DLC, microtransactions, free games... not hardware. No single PC was supported 10 years+ sold 150 million+ graphic cards (equivalent to console generations) do not hold more than 3- 4 years max, mot times they get dated even earlier."
You said the PC never outsells consoles. How else will you measure it as in games? PCs itself sell clearly more than consoles. How much of them are used for gaming is harder to ascertain. Or is it? Steam has at all times between 20M and 35M players online. Online in that moment! Steam had 132 monthly active users in 2021. According to VGC only three console platforms even *sold* that much: PS2, DS and Switch. And I doubt any of them ever beat that number of monthly active users. Steam has nearly double the number in active users than PS5 has sold hardware. And there are other shops on PC, though admittedly not as big and add maybe 10%-20%. As these users all have to use hardware it is clear: yes even in hardware used for gaming PC sells more. So yes, PC is clearly selling more units and it doesn't matter how long they are used as these active users obviously use a PC, no matter how old or new it is.
"Close to no physical PC games are sold in stores."
Consoles also sell by now more digital than physical. The consoles are just a few years behind PC in this trend.
"Console versions of games sell much better..."
You say on data showing a game selling 68% of their copies on PC and overall data showing more money is spent on games on PC than on games on all consoles combined. So yeah, games xclusive to consoles are selling much better on consoles. Otherwise...
"No person with a brain buys an overpriced desktop PC today."
Well, given the data a lot more people buy an PC and use it for gaming than people buy a PS5.
"When games like Mario, GTA... launch, watch 100s of people rushing in stores, clearing stock day 1"
When a new game launches people like to show off the numbers of active players of that game on Steam on the first weekend - and for popular games this is in the hundreds of thousands. For example Baldur's Gate 3 had over 800K concurrent players just shortly after launch.
"Many things on PC are free, thats also included in your statistics."
The statistics you answer to are showing Phantom Liberty (not free) and the second chart counts in dollars not units, so free offerings add nothing here.
"Online play for example. On consoles you get charged for it. Personally i would never even touch a PC and thanks gopdness i do not need one for work!!"
Wait, you never would touch a PC because on console you have to pay extra for online? What are you even on about?
I play consoles, because I use Linux for many years now on my PC and will not easily go back to Windows. And even I play more and more on PC, as with Proton it get's easier to do so on Linux as well.
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