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sguy78 on 14 August 2009

Don't they mostly focus on the PC anyways?



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XxXProphecyXxX on 14 August 2009

Don't bother me that much cause I got a high end PC but I can see why ppl who only owns a ps3 are upset......but then again when did Valve actually put an effort developing for playstation console.



KungKras on 14 August 2009

Valve shouldn't be working on the 360 either. All their magic happened on the PC.

Be PC exclusive Valve! PC gaming needs you!



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vlad321 on 14 August 2009

Let's do some math here.

Small PC developer + 360 being so similar to the PC + PS3 being some fucked up peice of hardware = no PS3 games from the small PC developer.

Makes sense.



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Cypher1980 on 14 August 2009
Jereel Hunter said:

Squall_Leonhart said:

Destroyer_of_knights said:
Not necessarily lazy, but one could say that their not skilled or intelligent enough to take the challenge that PS3 brings. ;)

Also, I thought a majority of programmers liked to be challenged, well the skilled one's at least.
This explains why there such advancements in software tech....the other portion of programmers that don't like the challenge...well they'll go the way of the dodo, so it's either adapt or die bitch!!!

I agree completely! It is the developers that 'go the extra mile' that make each console generation that more exciting than the last. I mean people were beginning to see a plateau in the graphical quality of Wii games and then Capcom came along with Monster Hunter 3 and shocked everyone, thus raising the bar of graphics (not taking into account story etc etc) and this in turn will make other developers push to get the most out of the console.

I mean in PS3 terms Sony studios are by far the furthest ahead in getting the console to do wonderful things, a la Uncharted 2, but this is obvious since they made the damn thing lol. But 3rd party studios like Konami (with MGS4) and even Ubisoft (with Prince of Persia, that game was just gorgeous) show that with a bit of effort, games on the PS3 can not just look fantastic but also get the sales needed!

Squall_Leonhart said:
Does anyone care anymore? Really? They have just shown that they are either incredibly lazy developers who refuse to have a challenge when it comes to making games (like you would imagine most games developers would relish) or they are just awful in that they can't get games to work on the console and now refuse to even try!

I mean look at the quality of the games coming on the console and already on it, it is far from impossible to make games for it so imo Valve = fail

 

I dunno if you guys are incredibly lazy, or not intelligent enough to understand how businesses run, but I'll break it down for you - companies create games to make money, not to cater to whoever wants them. Now, Valve is a small development company. And guess what? Developing for additional platforms requires more resources than they have. Studies have shown that companies that focus on maintaining profitability, rather than attempting to grow and grow are more likely to survive and profit. And that is what Valve is doing, working with what they know and making money - not spreading themselves thin by doubling their development staff in an attempt to penetrate more markets.

 

I also love how you, in the same breath as you agree that they are lazy, praise Sony's first party studio's and Konami for a single platform title. It's almost as if a developer is only lazy/unintelligent if they choose not to program for your favorite console. Investing notably more effort into a console that yields lower sales doesn't seem to be the brightest decision to me, but what do I know, I only develop for PCs, I must be unintelligent too.

Thank the Lord. Someone on these Forums is at least able to step back and look at the bigger picture.

I praise your sanity.



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solidpumar on 14 August 2009

Valve games on PC and steam. Better optimized and cheaper.


Bought on steam L4F for $25 2 months after launch. While 360 owner bought by 50-60.
360 have to pay $50 a years to play online on L4D.
360 owners have to pay $7 for add-on.
PC is add-on is free, online is free
Free dedicated servers, mods, community servers.

And didn't even touched on Orange box.

Buying Valve games without steam is newbish.



Kantor on 14 August 2009

The only reason they develop on 360 is because it's extra sales with little effort. They have no obligation to waste their time developing for PS3, because the architecture is too different to the 360 and PC, especially because their games probably wouldn't sell as well on PS3 as 360 or, especially, PC. Not sure why you'd want a Valve game on a console, though.

EDIT: Valve aren't lazy, they're just intelligent. A PS3 version is more work than it's worth.



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big_boss on 14 August 2009

Well after watching it Gabe didn't come off as a dick like most PS3 fans think he is. He knows that they didn't do the best job taking care of the PS3 fanbase and that PS3 owners who played the OB have a reason to be pissed off.

Plus he said that they didn't have the resoures to make a quailty game on the PS3 and that they won't continue to work on it.



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Onyxmeth on 14 August 2009
sunil247 said:
Kynes said:
A lot of the responses in this thread lack maturity or business vision. Sony developed an heterogeneous architecture, and it has consequences. This is one of them, the bad quality of the ports is another one.

Lazy ass developers not wanting to develop for the ps3 is another

Yeah! Damn those lazy ass developers not developing for both consoles like Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Q Games, Quantic Dream, Ninja Theory, Relentless Software, Slant Six Games and Eat Sleep Play. Oh and Konami not putting Metal Gear Solid 4 on 360. So damn lazy!



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vlad321 on 14 August 2009
Xoj said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Zlejedi said:
Seihyouken said:
Why would I want to play a Valve game on anything other than a PC?


Yeah that's a good question. I still laught at the proud x360 owners who are so happy they can play they dumbed down, low visual quality, bad controls version of proper Valve pc games :D

Do you also laugh at PS3 owners who play multiplat FPSs for playing the "bad controls version"?

UT3 have mouse and keyboard support . ;).

UT3 was a shitty game on the PC, let's face it.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835