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Death2009 said: anything that shows the big N is slowing is good news for gaming. It dropped by over 100k in north america and now is falling in japan! Nintendo, your time of dominance is coming to an end!
While I totally agree with your anti-Nintendo feelling, you're missing some things. NPD was 5 weeks in Jan, but only 4 in Feb. That is why you see lower numbers for all systems. Therefore, the Wii dropping from 436k to 335k, was about the same. 436/5=~87k per week. 335/4=~85k per week. Not much real difference, considering it's still sold out. And in Japan, I dont know if it's true but people keep saying Wii is still sold out, so, we dont really know much about the sales, until supply catches up. The sale number is basically just fluctuating with however many Nintendo ships. I'm not entirely concinced Wii is sold out in Japan, though. GAF says it is, but GAF lies through their teeth for Nintendo. But I would guess it's at least mostly sold out.



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Kwaad said: Dont think I attack Nintendo because their Nintendo.
This is exactly what you do. Over and over and over and over and over and over again. You do it with pretty much every single one of your posts. You are sickening in your fanboyism, and count your lucky stars there isn't a rule against being an extremely delusional fanboy. I get emails, PM's, and people in IRC telling me all the time that you are the single biggest reason they don't post more often on the boards. It's already gotten you warned numerous times, and banned once, and it will probably result in your eventual perma-ban. You have been told by me and pretty much every mod on this board to chill out with the constant Nintendo bashing, but I'm afraid that there isn't much hope that you will ever learn. You just don't get it. /rant. EDIT: Like I said, being a fanboy isn't against the rules, so this isn't a warning or official mod post whatsoever, just one user to another.



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Death2009 said: anything that shows the big N is slowing is good news for gaming. It dropped by over 100k in north america and now is falling in japan! Nintendo, your time of dominance is coming to an end!
The only reason it sold 100k less is that Nintendo shipped 100k less during that period, which was as everyone knows a week shorter than the Januar period. Every Wii that hit stores has sold out you moron.



Sintinel said: Kwaad said: Dont think I attack Nintendo because their Nintendo. This is exactly what you do. Over and over and over and over and over and over again. You do it with pretty much every single one of your posts. You are sickening in your fanboyism, and count your lucky stars there isn't a rule against being an extremely delusional fanboy. I get emails, PM's, and people in IRC telling me all the time that you are the single biggest reason they don't post more often on the boards. It's already gotten you warned numerous times, and banned once, and it will probably result in your eventual perma-ban. You have been told by me and pretty much every mod on this board to chill out with the constant Nintendo bashing, but I'm afraid that there isn't much hope that you will ever learn. You just don't get it. /rant. EDIT: Like I said, being a fanboy isn't against the rules, so this isn't a warning or official mod post whatsoever, just one user to another.
I just wanna say in responce to this. I waited in line for 12 hours, becuase I expected so much out of the Wii. 12 hours waiting in line. Do you know how long I waited in line for my PS3? I didnt. I infact, didnt expect to get a PS3 for 6 months. Do you think I'm anti-nintendo, becuase I say 'Zelda: WindWaker' is one of the best 3D puzzle/platformer games of all time? When I see a series It should go like this, from worst to greatest. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 not like this. (which is how zelda goes) 1 7 6 5 4 3 2 I understand that not every game is gonna be a smash hit. How is me saying Wii Sports is Next gen in gameplay is attacking and hating nintendo? Friggin A+ I list off what I feel are land-mark games in diffrent classes... that mostly are PC/360... and That is Pro sony and anti Nintendo? Would I still be anti N if I said? Zelda: TP is the best game ever and is unrivaled in every way. Zelda:TP is the best looking game of all time, it has the most unique and creative art of all time, and the gameplay is only matched by the most recent zelda! If I was to seriously say that much positive about a game... I doubt it was ever released. Let me give an example. God of War. I feel it was one of the most amazing... gameplay, the fluidity... it felt like Kratos was actually attacking the things, it felt he was actually interacting with them. Really there... being controlled by my fingers... The weapons moved fluid and seamless... not herky-jerky-herk like most games do. I praised Wii Sports. That wasnt a anti-nintendo rant. That was what I feel is innovation. I listed WiiSports in there. So dont even THINK I turn a blind eye to nintendo's good stuff.



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Christopher_G2 said: Death2009 said: anything that shows the big N is slowing is good news for gaming. It dropped by over 100k in north america and now is falling in japan! Nintendo, your time of dominance is coming to an end! The only reason it sold 100k less is that Nintendo shipped 100k less during that period, which was as everyone knows a week shorter than the Januar period. Every Wii that hit stores has sold out you moron.
sigh, let me break it down for you. Febuary is only about 3 days shorter than January and even if it was the same length the wii would still have sold 100k less due to the fact it on averge sold LESS PER DAY! January sold - 485k Febuary sold - 335k January per day - 15,645 Febuary per day - 11,964 If Febuary was 31 days the wii would have sold 370,892 which is still 100k less than january. The 3 day difference would not have made an impact at all. This is all 3rd grade math.



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Death2009 said: [sigh, let me break it down for you. Febuary is only about 3 days shorter than January and even if it was the same length the wii would still have sold 100k less due to the fact it on averge sold LESS PER DAY! January sold - 485k Febuary sold - 335k January per day - 15,645 Febuary per day - 11,964 If Febuary was 31 days the wii would have sold 370,892 which is still 100k less than january. The 3 day difference would not have made an impact at all. This is all 3rd grade math.
Just to let you know, January had like 7 days from december added... count that in january.



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Kwaad said: Death2009 said: [sigh, let me break it down for you. Febuary is only about 3 days shorter than January and even if it was the same length the wii would still have sold 100k less due to the fact it on averge sold LESS PER DAY! January sold - 485k Febuary sold - 335k January per day - 15,645 Febuary per day - 11,964 If Febuary was 31 days the wii would have sold 370,892 which is still 100k less than january. The 3 day difference would not have made an impact at all. This is all 3rd grade math. Just to let you know, January had like 7 days from december added... count that in january.
Still more per day than Febuary. 12,763. The shorter month didn't matter. And why was there 7 more days in january?



Death2009 said: Christopher_G2 said: Death2009 said: anything that shows the big N is slowing is good news for gaming. It dropped by over 100k in north america and now is falling in japan! Nintendo, your time of dominance is coming to an end! The only reason it sold 100k less is that Nintendo shipped 100k less during that period, which was as everyone knows a week shorter than the Januar period. Every Wii that hit stores has sold out you moron. sigh, let me break it down for you. Febuary is only about 3 days shorter than January and even if it was the same length the wii would still have sold 100k less due to the fact it on averge sold LESS PER DAY! January sold - 485k Febuary sold - 335k January per day - 15,645 Febuary per day - 11,964 If Febuary was 31 days the wii would have sold 370,892 which is still 100k less than january. The 3 day difference would not have made an impact at all. This is all 3rd grade math.
February is a super slow month for ALL consoles...get over yourself. If you hate Nintendo so much, don't buy their games. Personally, I like their systems and especially their games...they're one of the best game developers out there. If Nintendo went away, the gaming world would be a dark, grim place...



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Death2009 said: Christopher_G2 said: Death2009 said: anything that shows the big N is slowing is good news for gaming. It dropped by over 100k in north america and now is falling in japan! Nintendo, your time of dominance is coming to an end! The only reason it sold 100k less is that Nintendo shipped 100k less during that period, which was as everyone knows a week shorter than the Januar period. Every Wii that hit stores has sold out you moron. sigh, let me break it down for you. Febuary is only about 3 days shorter than January and even if it was the same length the wii would still have sold 100k less due to the fact it on averge sold LESS PER DAY! January sold - 485k Febuary sold - 335k January per day - 15,645 Febuary per day - 11,964 If Febuary was 31 days the wii would have sold 370,892 which is still 100k less than january. The 3 day difference would not have made an impact at all. This is all 3rd grade math.
Except NPD doesn't work from the 1st of the month to the last day of the month. Instead, it may be from the 3rd to the 2nd of the next month, or any other odd combination. NPD does weeks, most months are four week months, NPD reports on 28 days of sales. Every third month or so, they do a 5 week reporting period, 35 days, to make up for the missing days. Jan was a 5week NPD month. Feb was a 4 week. Generally, you should expect lower sales across the board on 4week months. Look at 360, 293k in Jan, 228k in Feb. Wii and PS3 also dropped a lot. Not all the fluctuations are due to the extra week, for example PS3 fell much greater than 1 week of sales, while DS actually sold much more, because it was out of stock in Jan. Those were the two exceptions. Simply put, too get a weekly average, you must divide total sales by the # of weeks in the reporting period. There wasn't a big fall in 360 sales, it actually held steady on a weekly basis. Same for Wii. Too look at 360 sales, 293k in Jan versus 228k in Feb, you may go "wow big drop". But weekly sales was 293/5= 58.6k vs 228/4=57k in Feb, almost the same. However, of course PS3 took a big drop in weekly sales as well. You're simply mistakem in your assumption that NPD goes by exact calender months. They do not. They use 28 and 35 day "reporting periods" that roughly corrospond to a given month, but not exactly. January was a 35 day (5 week) reporting period, some days at the end of December and a couple at the begining of Feb was included. Feb was a 28 day (4 week) period. As too what months are 4 week amd which are 5 week, I dont know, I get that info from knowledgable posters at Gaf.



BenKenobi88 said: Death2009 said: Christopher_G2 said: Death2009 said: anything that shows the big N is slowing is good news for gaming. It dropped by over 100k in north america and now is falling in japan! Nintendo, your time of dominance is coming to an end! The only reason it sold 100k less is that Nintendo shipped 100k less during that period, which was as everyone knows a week shorter than the Januar period. Every Wii that hit stores has sold out you moron. sigh, let me break it down for you. Febuary is only about 3 days shorter than January and even if it was the same length the wii would still have sold 100k less due to the fact it on averge sold LESS PER DAY! January sold - 485k Febuary sold - 335k January per day - 15,645 Febuary per day - 11,964 If Febuary was 31 days the wii would have sold 370,892 which is still 100k less than january. The 3 day difference would not have made an impact at all. This is all 3rd grade math. February is a super slow month for ALL consoles...get over yourself. If you hate Nintendo so much, don't buy their games. Personally, I like their systems and especially their games...they're one of the best game developers out there. If Nintendo went away, the gaming world would be a dark, grim place...
Look at the reports, sales went up but the wii's numbers went down. so YOU get over YOURSELF! I am just stating facts and I am sick of being flamed by fanboys for doing it. Dark and grim? How so? The industry would be fine. so get off your high horse.