I think the majority of the shooter and fighting fans are console gamers.  How many fighters and shooters have been million sellers on any given handheld?

People just don't get why they should play those games on portables when there's always a better option. So do I.

Graphics are one of the main selling points of those games, so portables are out of competition with consoles in this regard. But they could compete in fun of multiplayer gameplay. They just need to bring some big names with heavily marketed local multiplayer capability of advertised games.

Can't say about multiplayer shooters (not into genre), afaik Metroid Prime Hunters was pretty big in multiplayer, but it's hardly could be considered big franchise in genre of multiplayer action (it's action-adventure series after all). I assume, fighters could do better on portables. Jump series on DS (>1,3mln in Japan), Dissidia: FF (900k in Japan) + newly announced Tales of VS are what portable fighters should look like. Obviously they're purely fanservice (big roster of well-known anime, manga, videogame characters*) to attract big sales + easy to pick-up gameplay, nothing complex. I think SSB DS could do well... again, fanservice (multiple videogame characters) + well-known franchise + addictive multiplayer action + gameplay, accessible for newcomers and deep enough for vets** = road to success and maybe, just maybe, 3rd parties will come up with those kind of experience on portable systems.

*Unfortunately not all of them could be translated overseas - cultural differences + licencing problems - developers need to make smth with universal appeal (would be interesting to see Dissidia: FF sales in US\EU).

** Who knows, even touch control could fit gameplay if done right. Sadly Ninty never considered SSB for DS.

Quality over Quantity is what important to me (But 100 mellion Ds owner disagree)

So... He is bitching about shelfspace right??
I thought Hardcore meant sitting in your parents basement, never go outside and buying your games online.. :)

no thats being a geek!!!

Well, Tekken sold 1.9 million on PSP, WWE 2008 is at 0.99 million, and Dissidia is at 900k.

As for shooters, Star Wars Battlefront 2 sold 1.63 million on PSP and Medal of Honor: Heroes sold 930k.

 Righto

Depends on what that Hardcore gamer's looking for.

The guy is conviently leaving out that these hardcore PSP games in at least two cases that I know of have other members of those franchises on DS.

Metal Slug Anthology(PSP), no mention of Metal Slug 7(DS).
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (PSP), no mention of Final Fantasy Tactics A2(DS).

That was enough to get me to stop reading.

Uh...the PSP is a perfect console for hardcore or casual gamers in general. It might not have games like Brain Age or minigames like the Nintendo DS but it's in its own market. It's more targeted to the teenage crowd or adult crowd. I own one, and at the moment I don't own any games for the platform. But I will generate a good library soon, also I own about 3 or 4 UMD movies. I love those and watch them on the go!

Saying that the PSP is directed to the hardcore is crazy. I am sort of a casual gamer and been labeled as a casual gamer by several games alike and I'm liking the PSP platform more than the Nintendo DS.